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the smoke radio

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for the masses headline edition july 8

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1947

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the army air forces has announced that a

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flying disk has been found and is now in

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the possession of the army

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if the game is rigged change the game

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game changer

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i occasionally think how quickly our

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difference is worldwide

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would vanish if we were facing an alien

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this is fade to black with your host

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jimmy church

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on the game changer radio network and

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1985.

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you're listening to fate to black with

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jimmy church on the game changer network

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good evening

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bespoke radio

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for the

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masses

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how you doing how you doing today's

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the new year

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we are live from a bunker somewhere in

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the middle of beautiful downtown

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middle of nowhere that's right

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a total undisclosed location

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but it is beautiful

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that's right i would like to welcome

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everybody listening all around the world

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all across the united states

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hither and tether to and fro back and

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forth up and down east and west north

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and south far

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and near this is fade to black for kjcr

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the game changer network and kgra

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the planets i

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am your host jimmy church what is

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cracking everybody how you doing

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all right

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tonight very special guest lucinda

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morell is here she's with us for the

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very first time

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an e.t experiencer speaks

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really looking forward to tonight's show

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tomorrow night

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we have kathleen martin we rescheduled

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from last night to tomorrow night so

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no fader night tomorrow night we'll do

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fader night next week no big deal but uh

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that's uh the way things uh shook out um

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you know in building and moving

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uh into a new studio that is a huge

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challenge it's just huge but uh i i

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now um uh for everybody out there that's

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and watching i'm not over on on youtube

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at comments but i want everybody to

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understand we did do some test runs

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the internet just stopped and that was

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right and and and here we are

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now and and i'm listening to the audio

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things that we haven't had a chance to

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yet here um on the walls and the

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and things but uh it'll get dialed in

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and there's some other stuff with the

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but uh that being said let's get to show

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ufo megacon and it's in laughlin nevada

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dot com tickets and info are over there

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it's still in the middle of this

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to that you have no

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idea you have no idea how bad i need to

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hang out with all of you

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so i want all those fade to black

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t-shirts there i want all the hats

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i want a full-on seven-day fade or not

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will be running and things but i i just

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don't want it to sell out before you get

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a chance to get your tickets

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all right all right uh follow me on

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at j church radio at j church radio

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and uh oh a couple of things uh now

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hashtag f2b is the sandbox on twitter

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how is uh everything sounding

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everything is fine the bunker cam

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uh facebook youtube keep me posted but i

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okay i think we are good but you can let

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and hashtag f2bq is fade to black

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uh for myself for lucinda tonight you

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at jimmychurchradio.com with all of that

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being said man i'm excited

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oh taking a night off uh last night

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and ah man so don't think i just relaxed

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it's gonna be good for the rest of the

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oh man i can't tell you the amount of

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coffee i drink today

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nasa's ingenuity helicopter is being

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lowered from the belly of perseverance

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all of this is being done this week as

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that's right they're lowering it to the

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six days assuming that everything goes

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the helicopter it's going to be any time

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the ingenuity team at jpl will fully

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how exciting is that now

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uh crazy news today august

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in arizona how cool is that

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creating the holiday the holiday honors

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the courage and critical role native

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happy birthday to today

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christopher walken christopher walken

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is 77. ewan mcgregor

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today well he says he's 49.

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he's got to be older than that almost 10

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years younger than me i'm not buying it

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shirley jones now i just talked to ryan

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cassidy last week

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his mom today shirley jones

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is 86. that's right mama partridge

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shirley partridge angus young today

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is 75. bad companies mick ralph's one of

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the great guitar players of all time

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right there

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today is 77 and warrant guitarist

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our dead guy's birthday today is johann

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at the age of 65. of course johann is

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regarded as one of the greatest

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composers of all time and there is no

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about it he received the title of royal

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composer from augustus iii in 1736

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and he died on uh july 28

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one of the biggest days 1999

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the matrix is released in

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theaters more on that in just a bit

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fader fact william stevenson now this is

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i i don't know if the world and

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certainly america the united states down

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here the lower 48.

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i don't think we we appreciate canada

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enough in what they've given to the

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like this fader fact

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william stevenson a canadian

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was the real life inspiration for double

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double-oh-seven james bond

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stevenson a canadian played a key role

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in the creation of

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wait for it the cia

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yeah tonight very special guest

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lucinda morell is here really looking

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forward to this conversation

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lucinda uh amongst other things

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is an og fade or not number one uh

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number two she's part of our

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very close uh circle of friends and

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number three i have

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engaged in a lot of conversation with

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lucinda

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over the years and um what i really

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appreciate

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about her is not what you think so i'm

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gonna say this now before i bring

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lucinda on

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lucinda and i

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kind of grew up the same way

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music hollywood the scene

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all of that and then into this ufo

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community

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and where she is today and what she is

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doing is absolutely amazing and uh

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it's it's gonna be a really cool night

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for me to have

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uh one of my closest friends on the show

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for the first time

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so tonight lucinda morell joins us

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all right now let me hit this

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the links are over at

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jimmychurchradio.com visit the amazon

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store

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uh fade to black blend the game changer

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blend and of course

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river moon wellness and all of our fade

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to black black moon products

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that we do with our partners river moon

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and uh there you go all right all right

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i think the promo codes f2b blend

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and i'm sure juanita is listening

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tonight rita is

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uh uh juanita is the is the code still

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f2b blend you know and i'm watching now

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they're just tweeting away everybody's

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just having fun

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okay so i wanna know is the promo code

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still f2b blend

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on this day

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the matrix was released in theaters

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in 1999. crazy

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crazy and i wanted to share with you

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how i first heard of the matrix

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because it's pretty interesting so i'm

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going to back up

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uh that are not from

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la this is going to be great for you for

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those of you

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from la you're going to go wow church

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wow you're right because i didn't first

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hear

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of the matrix online it wasn't online it

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wasn't on the web

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no it was the magazine

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the la weekly

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still exists maybe it exists online i

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haven't seen it in years maybe it's

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still out there i don't know

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but back in the day it was one of the

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most read and most important

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magazines in all of los angeles no

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question about it

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it had the best writing best writing

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best articles

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best of everything was in there it was

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thick

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too uh the best advertising all of the

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at it was

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the the classified section in the back

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just just an amazing thick

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weekly magazine but the best part

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it was free so you can go anywhere just

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about in los angeles

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any newsstand any store anywhere

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you went there was an la weekly it was

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just right there

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box stand that that you grabbed it and

377
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you walked

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so excited when the new la weekly came

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out it was just the way that it is just

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an astoundingly great

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publication now from 1984

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until probably around the year 2000

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the la weekly was in my home always had

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it

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always had the latest issue every single

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week without fail seriously

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and it was just like other millions of

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angelenos

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everybody was the same way when it came

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to the la weekly

391
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and every section of it was top shelf

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every section all of it and

393
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the section for movies and it had

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theater and it had books and

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and investigative reporting and and

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and news just an amazing thing but the

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movie section

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was insane right it had reviews that

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were honest

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it had a complete listing

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of theaters everywhere it seemed

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i'm pretty sure that every theater in la

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was listed in there

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and what was currently playing with the

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times

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all of the venues in los angeles and

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that includes music and libraries and

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everything was in the la weekly but the

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theater section was incredible the

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movies

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right so on the day

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that the matrix was released there was

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this review

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never heard of the matrix never heard of

415
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it and but i trusted the la weekly and i

416
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was always looking for new releases on

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films and things and

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and and here it was the matrix

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in the la weekly and i read it

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now the overall concept

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of the film was laid out in this article

422
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you know alternate realities and neural

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networks and

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ai running the world and

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um i immediately jumped

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back to the theater listings and you

427
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know my local theater

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and there it was premiering tonight the

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matrix

430
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i was like holy crap now there was no

431
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buzz about the film

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nobody was talking about it it wasn't

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like i had a friend say hey man uh

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this movie's coming out next week it's

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called the matrix no there was no

436
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chatter no word on the street nothing i

437
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found the matrix because of the review

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that i read in the la weekly

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that's it so i was all in

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i mean the whole ai thing and

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uh ai running the world and and also

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very generalized

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the the reviewer at that time

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and has every excuse in the world for

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not really truly

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understanding the movie um the review

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had you know the

448
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amazing special effects and and and

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keanu reeves and you know

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and these things so the review

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for for that time was pretty cool but i

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got it i was all in i was so i called up

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a friend

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you know i said hey man uh tonight we're

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gonna go see the matrix

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and his response i remember it was like

457
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the the what and

458
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remember at the time nobody knew about

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the film right

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and even my friend who i used to go to

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the movies with a lot

462
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who thought he was on top of his game

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never heard of it

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but we went and

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i'll say this although

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i really enjoyed the film that first

467
00:23:14,549 --> 00:23:11,200
time

468
00:23:16,310 --> 00:23:14,559
after it was over i just

469
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sat there and the credits were rolling

470
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and things and i really couldn't get up

471
00:23:21,350 --> 00:23:19,600
but i was just wondering what the heck

472
00:23:25,029 --> 00:23:21,360
did i just see

473
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you know i didn't quite now i i

474
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i enjoyed it and it was great but that

475
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first passed through

476
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it was more of an action film to me it

477
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was well you know with the science

478
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fiction

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things and especially it was cool

480
00:23:44,870 --> 00:23:41,440
but i just knew

481
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that it had so many layers and it was

482
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saying

483
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so much i just didn't know what it was

484
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as we left the theater

485
00:23:54,310 --> 00:23:52,799
and walked to the car we did that normal

486
00:23:56,149 --> 00:23:54,320
thing that people do after they leave

487
00:23:58,310 --> 00:23:56,159
the theater you're walking out you know

488
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and you're talking about the film

489
00:24:04,310 --> 00:24:01,760
and my head was swimming

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00:24:06,390 --> 00:24:04,320
so and i couldn't get the film out of my

491
00:24:10,310 --> 00:24:06,400
mind i didn't understand it but i went

492
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back the next day and i watched it again

493
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something i never do it's very rare

494
00:24:18,549 --> 00:24:17,360
these days for anybody to go to uh a

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movie

496
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pay for it and turn around and go back

497
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the next day

498
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but i don't even know if i've done that

499
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with any movie

500
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but i did it with the matrix after the

501
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second viewing the next night i realized

502
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that

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from the day before

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i was wrong right

505
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and here's the deal

506
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those first two nights in the theater as

507
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strange as this

508
00:24:55,510 --> 00:24:53,520
is today when we know what we know about

509
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the matrix in the matrix trilogy

510
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those first two nights in the theater

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wasn't sold out

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nope first night three quarters full

513
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second night half full

514
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you know think about that for a second

515
00:25:16,390 --> 00:25:13,440
the the craziness around the matrix

516
00:25:18,230 --> 00:25:16,400
took a few months to catch on at least

517
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that's my memory because

518
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i was talking about the film with

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everyone

520
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all right most hadn't seen it or

521
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even heard about it in certain circles i

522
00:25:34,470 --> 00:25:33,440
found that everybody was talking about

523
00:25:37,750 --> 00:25:34,480
it

524
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right losing their minds

525
00:25:43,669 --> 00:25:41,200
actually now let me have this coffee

526
00:25:45,830 --> 00:25:43,679
again

527
00:25:47,669 --> 00:25:45,840
i know that that sounds a little nuts

528
00:25:50,070 --> 00:25:47,679
today

529
00:25:51,350 --> 00:25:50,080
but that's that's that's the way that it

530
00:25:55,669 --> 00:25:51,360
was

531
00:25:59,110 --> 00:25:55,679
and today we understand we know

532
00:26:01,269 --> 00:25:59,120
about its total cultural impact and what

533
00:26:02,710 --> 00:26:01,279
it eventually turned into we know that

534
00:26:05,990 --> 00:26:02,720
today but back then

535
00:26:09,990 --> 00:26:06,000
it took a minute yeah but then

536
00:26:12,950 --> 00:26:10,000
things did explode and i remember when i

537
00:26:15,190 --> 00:26:12,960
got the dvd and i couldn't wait for the

538
00:26:18,870 --> 00:26:15,200
matrix dvd to come out

539
00:26:23,029 --> 00:26:18,880
and and it did i watched it

540
00:26:26,549 --> 00:26:23,039
every night for a few weeks

541
00:26:29,750 --> 00:26:26,559
this is a fact i was

542
00:26:32,149 --> 00:26:29,760
i was so into the film i was reading

543
00:26:35,110 --> 00:26:32,159
everything that i could find about it

544
00:26:37,190 --> 00:26:35,120
i was going to all the fan sites and

545
00:26:39,110 --> 00:26:37,200
these theories behind the film the true

546
00:26:41,269 --> 00:26:39,120
meaning of the matrix started to become

547
00:26:44,390 --> 00:26:41,279
clearer to everyone

548
00:26:47,029 --> 00:26:44,400
um and then i had my own meaning

549
00:26:48,870 --> 00:26:47,039
of the film as well and i didn't

550
00:26:49,750 --> 00:26:48,880
necessarily agree with all of the other

551
00:26:51,669 --> 00:26:49,760
takes um

552
00:26:53,909 --> 00:26:51,679
on the film that are out there i still

553
00:26:58,630 --> 00:26:53,919
don't to this day

554
00:27:03,510 --> 00:26:58,640
the matrix affected me in my own way

555
00:27:11,350 --> 00:27:07,830
so many things have become a part of

556
00:27:14,950 --> 00:27:11,360
our reality today

557
00:27:17,269 --> 00:27:14,960
you know and it's words it's expressions

558
00:27:18,310 --> 00:27:17,279
it's thoughts it's theories it's

559
00:27:22,630 --> 00:27:18,320
concepts

560
00:27:24,870 --> 00:27:22,640
and of course pop culture it's uh

561
00:27:25,750 --> 00:27:24,880
things that are here that are part of us

562
00:27:28,870 --> 00:27:25,760
because

563
00:27:30,070 --> 00:27:28,880
of the matrix and one of the best

564
00:27:33,269 --> 00:27:30,080
examples

565
00:27:37,590 --> 00:27:33,279
that i can give you is the red pill

566
00:27:39,669 --> 00:27:37,600
the blue pill red pilling

567
00:27:40,710 --> 00:27:39,679
has become such a huge part of what we

568
00:27:42,630 --> 00:27:40,720
are today

569
00:27:44,230 --> 00:27:42,640
and i think everyone pretty much knows

570
00:27:46,310 --> 00:27:44,240
what the term is

571
00:27:47,750 --> 00:27:46,320
but i would guess that there is a large

572
00:27:51,350 --> 00:27:47,760
part of red pill

573
00:27:53,110 --> 00:27:51,360
sayers out there that have never even

574
00:27:55,510 --> 00:27:53,120
seen the matrix

575
00:27:56,389 --> 00:27:55,520
think about that they don't have any

576
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idea

577
00:28:02,950 --> 00:27:59,760
where red pill has come from

578
00:28:07,350 --> 00:28:02,960
and i know it sounds crazy but

579
00:28:10,389 --> 00:28:07,360
remember the matrix

580
00:28:14,549 --> 00:28:10,399
made its debut over two

581
00:28:17,990 --> 00:28:14,559
decades ago before facebook

582
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right before google before

583
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youtube and it got so much

584
00:28:27,909 --> 00:28:24,559
right it's it's it's it's unbelievable

585
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if we look at it just in those terms

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um you know the whole modern part of

587
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society today we we

588
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we get it and we we think about the

589
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matrix

590
00:28:38,710 --> 00:28:38,080
you got to remember it was way before

591
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the effect

592
00:28:42,470 --> 00:28:41,200
that the film has had on me personally

593
00:28:43,669 --> 00:28:42,480
in the rest of the world today it just

594
00:28:46,789 --> 00:28:43,679
cannot be measured

595
00:28:50,230 --> 00:28:46,799
seriously it can't i

596
00:28:54,950 --> 00:28:50,240
sat for weeks

597
00:28:57,950 --> 00:28:54,960
watching scenes over and over again

598
00:28:59,909 --> 00:28:57,960
i sat on my bed with a laptop

599
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transcribing them

600
00:29:05,830 --> 00:29:03,520
word for word just right there

601
00:29:06,870 --> 00:29:05,840
and i would get sometimes i would print

602
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it

603
00:29:16,870 --> 00:29:14,720
any other works of anything

604
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except for maybe frank zappa but that's

605
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a whole nother show

606
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but but that's how much the matrix

607
00:29:27,190 --> 00:29:25,520
opened up my mind and and you think

608
00:29:28,950 --> 00:29:27,200
about it today

609
00:29:30,389 --> 00:29:28,960
where there's a couple of things that

610
00:29:33,510 --> 00:29:30,399
happen all the time oh man

611
00:29:37,350 --> 00:29:33,520
this is like the matrix right it's

612
00:29:41,110 --> 00:29:37,360
it's a term now it's a process

613
00:29:43,990 --> 00:29:41,120
it's a it's an emotion how many

614
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how many videos on youtube how many tv

615
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shows have you seen

616
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how many movies where the dripping green

617
00:29:56,230 --> 00:29:52,559
numbers and letters and binary code come

618
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floating down because they know right

619
00:30:00,230 --> 00:29:59,039
now obviously it's it's borrowed from

620
00:30:03,269 --> 00:30:00,240
the matrix

621
00:30:05,190 --> 00:30:03,279
but it also starts a thought process it

622
00:30:08,950 --> 00:30:05,200
insinuates something

623
00:30:11,909 --> 00:30:08,960
right that's how it has become

624
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part of our lives part of culture it's

625
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incredible

626
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and it didn't start out that way i found

627
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it

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in the la weekly

629
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this is fade to black i am your host

630
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jimmy church

631
00:30:27,510 --> 00:30:26,640
tonight for the first time with us

632
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lucinda

633
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morrell it's going to be a great show

634
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really really looking forward to this

635
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conversation

636
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tomorrow night no fader night no

637
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tomorrow night kathleen martin is back

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with us

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rescheduled from last night this is fade

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to black i am your host jimmy church

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and kgra the planet

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hi this is rob reiner from anvil and

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you're listening to jimmychurchradio.com

759
00:35:44,270 --> 00:35:37,280
what's up i'm chris what up this is

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jimmy church radio

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all right welcome back fade to black i'm

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wow new bunker

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new new thing it's just incredible

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incredible and a totally new guest

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that's what i'm talking about tonight

766
00:36:16,230 --> 00:36:15,119
lucinda morell is here now tomorrow

767
00:36:18,870 --> 00:36:16,240
night uh

768
00:36:21,030 --> 00:36:18,880
kathleen martin is back we had to

769
00:36:23,430 --> 00:36:21,040
reschedule her so tomorrow night just a

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little public service announcement

771
00:36:26,950 --> 00:36:25,599
there's no fader night tomorrow night

772
00:36:29,750 --> 00:36:26,960
kathleen martin

773
00:36:32,630 --> 00:36:29,760
is back with us lucinda laughing eagle

774
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morale loves her multi-dimensional life

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she balances her time between her

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beautiful family her career in the

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aerospace industry

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and her studies of exploration into the

779
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greater consciousness

780
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a lifelong experiencer of all things

781
00:36:46,950 --> 00:36:44,560
paranormal

782
00:36:48,710 --> 00:36:46,960
lucinda is an intuitive medium a

783
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shamanic practitioner

784
00:36:53,829 --> 00:36:51,440
a loyal fate or not and she works with

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local support groups and charities and

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her intention is to help her clients

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live a life

788
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in accordance with their highest purpose

789
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and i would like to welcome for the

790
00:37:06,230 --> 00:37:03,200
first time on fade to black

791
00:37:07,750 --> 00:37:06,240
lucinda morale lucinda good evening how

792
00:37:10,069 --> 00:37:07,760
are you

793
00:37:11,910 --> 00:37:10,079
how you doing jimmy i am doing great i

794
00:37:14,150 --> 00:37:11,920
bet you never thought that this day

795
00:37:16,710 --> 00:37:14,160
would arrive

796
00:37:18,470 --> 00:37:16,720
uh no yeah and move your microphone

797
00:37:21,030 --> 00:37:18,480
closer to your mouth

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00:37:21,510 --> 00:37:21,040
just bend it in bend it in you can go

799
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further

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00:37:26,870 --> 00:37:25,200
see i i can see lucinda you guys can't

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and uh that's a good thing because i

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have hat hair

803
00:37:33,430 --> 00:37:31,040
you're right now lucinda you get the

804
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first time guest disclaimer

805
00:37:37,510 --> 00:37:35,440
but you never thought that would happen

806
00:37:40,630 --> 00:37:37,520
either let me take it this morning

807
00:37:42,630 --> 00:37:40,640
yeah let's go let's go yeah yeah um it's

808
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just you and i sitting on my couch

809
00:37:46,870 --> 00:37:44,880
having a conversation as friends which

810
00:37:50,150 --> 00:37:46,880
we have done now for years

811
00:37:52,310 --> 00:37:50,160
um but hopefully by the end of the night

812
00:37:54,069 --> 00:37:52,320
we are still friends so there's your

813
00:37:55,030 --> 00:37:54,079
version of the first time guest

814
00:37:57,510 --> 00:37:55,040
disclaimer

815
00:37:58,150 --> 00:37:57,520
very excited about the show tonight and

816
00:38:01,030 --> 00:37:58,160
um

817
00:38:02,710 --> 00:38:01,040
this is the thing uh a lot of the fader

818
00:38:05,990 --> 00:38:02,720
knots know you

819
00:38:08,630 --> 00:38:06,000
but they don't know about you and and

820
00:38:09,990 --> 00:38:08,640
and and some do but we're gonna go

821
00:38:13,270 --> 00:38:10,000
through the entire

822
00:38:15,589 --> 00:38:13,280
thing tonight and uh we're gonna relive

823
00:38:17,510 --> 00:38:15,599
some of our conversations uh from years

824
00:38:19,750 --> 00:38:17,520
past two as well

825
00:38:20,870 --> 00:38:19,760
and i want to start here for everybody

826
00:38:25,030 --> 00:38:20,880
out there

827
00:38:28,230 --> 00:38:25,040
i remember um a conversation that we had

828
00:38:31,750 --> 00:38:28,240
many years ago about uh

829
00:38:35,349 --> 00:38:31,760
your family and a siding that happened

830
00:38:38,390 --> 00:38:35,359
in los angeles that changed everything

831
00:38:40,950 --> 00:38:38,400
and i want to go to that moment

832
00:38:44,870 --> 00:38:40,960
uh there was uh up to that time was

833
00:38:48,630 --> 00:38:47,390
ooh okay so that means we're going

834
00:38:55,030 --> 00:38:48,640
chronological

835
00:38:56,230 --> 00:38:55,040
so there were always strange things

836
00:38:59,510 --> 00:38:56,240
going on

837
00:39:00,550 --> 00:38:59,520
i just didn't know that they were of the

838
00:39:03,270 --> 00:39:00,560
ufo

839
00:39:04,790 --> 00:39:03,280
phenomenon i i i did not make the

840
00:39:07,829 --> 00:39:04,800
connection

841
00:39:08,630 --> 00:39:07,839
that a lifetime of experiences were part

842
00:39:11,670 --> 00:39:08,640
of this

843
00:39:15,109 --> 00:39:11,680
phenomenon until 2016.

844
00:39:16,950 --> 00:39:15,119
oh yeah okay now now okay so now we just

845
00:39:19,910 --> 00:39:16,960
went way forward

846
00:39:21,510 --> 00:39:19,920
and so chronologically we need to stay

847
00:39:25,030 --> 00:39:21,520
way back and my con

848
00:39:27,990 --> 00:39:25,040
my question first starts with um

849
00:39:30,950 --> 00:39:28,000
what part of uh los angeles were you

850
00:39:33,990 --> 00:39:33,430
i was living in alhambra where my

851
00:39:36,390 --> 00:39:34,000
parents

852
00:39:37,109 --> 00:39:36,400
still live right so san gabriel valley

853
00:39:40,150 --> 00:39:37,119
right about

854
00:39:43,910 --> 00:39:40,160
15 10 minutes from downtown l.a

855
00:39:46,390 --> 00:39:43,920
uh 15 minutes from hollywood and uh

856
00:39:47,430 --> 00:39:46,400
and what's interesting for me about all

857
00:39:50,310 --> 00:39:47,440
of this

858
00:39:51,990 --> 00:39:50,320
um and i talk about you know where the

859
00:39:54,470 --> 00:39:52,000
different locations for me

860
00:39:56,069 --> 00:39:54,480
in in los angeles and i spent a big

861
00:39:59,270 --> 00:39:56,079
amount of time

862
00:40:02,230 --> 00:39:59,280
in pasadena and for

863
00:40:03,030 --> 00:40:02,240
anybody in los angeles and from that

864
00:40:05,829 --> 00:40:03,040
part of

865
00:40:06,790 --> 00:40:05,839
the valley the san gabriel valley

866
00:40:10,270 --> 00:40:06,800
pasadena

867
00:40:13,430 --> 00:40:10,280
alhambra sierra madre

868
00:40:16,710 --> 00:40:13,440
arcadia these are

869
00:40:19,670 --> 00:40:16,720
all it's like one big city

870
00:40:21,109 --> 00:40:19,680
everybody is in everybody's business and

871
00:40:22,150 --> 00:40:21,119
even though they may have different

872
00:40:24,790 --> 00:40:22,160
names

873
00:40:26,069 --> 00:40:24,800
alhambra from my house is just a few

874
00:40:28,390 --> 00:40:26,079
miles away

875
00:40:29,589 --> 00:40:28,400
right but it sounds like to the

876
00:40:32,069 --> 00:40:29,599
listeners

877
00:40:33,589 --> 00:40:32,079
that these there's vast geographical

878
00:40:35,990 --> 00:40:33,599
distances here

879
00:40:36,710 --> 00:40:36,000
and it's simply not the case is it you

880
00:40:39,349 --> 00:40:36,720
can see

881
00:40:40,790 --> 00:40:39,359
pasadena from alhambra in fact if you

882
00:40:45,910 --> 00:40:40,800
cross a street

883
00:40:49,109 --> 00:40:45,920
you you go from alhambra to pasadena

884
00:40:52,230 --> 00:40:49,119
yeah alhambra's just south so you have

885
00:40:52,550 --> 00:40:52,240
pasadena think think rose bowl right

886
00:40:54,950 --> 00:40:52,560
like

887
00:40:55,670 --> 00:40:54,960
fair oaks and then you go just a little

888
00:40:58,309 --> 00:40:55,680
south and you have

889
00:40:59,990 --> 00:40:58,319
south pass right that's south pasadena

890
00:41:02,630 --> 00:41:00,000
and then you hit alhambra

891
00:41:03,910 --> 00:41:02,640
so this this for the fader notes it's

892
00:41:05,990 --> 00:41:03,920
one of those things of like

893
00:41:06,950 --> 00:41:06,000
in high school you're still going to

894
00:41:09,349 --> 00:41:06,960
parties

895
00:41:11,349 --> 00:41:09,359
in pasadena and south pass so you know

896
00:41:12,710 --> 00:41:11,359
as a teenager you can still drive to

897
00:41:14,710 --> 00:41:12,720
those parties because you know

898
00:41:16,150 --> 00:41:14,720
somebody that knows somebody and it's

899
00:41:19,510 --> 00:41:16,160
all close it's all

900
00:41:19,990 --> 00:41:19,520
closed it's all close so okay so this is

901
00:41:23,109 --> 00:41:20,000
going down

902
00:41:25,589 --> 00:41:23,119
in alhambra in my neck of the woods

903
00:41:27,030 --> 00:41:25,599
and and i found all of this totally

904
00:41:30,390 --> 00:41:27,040
interesting what was your family's

905
00:41:34,230 --> 00:41:30,400
background what did your dad do

906
00:41:37,829 --> 00:41:34,240
so um dad is like

907
00:41:41,430 --> 00:41:37,839
native angelino so my

908
00:41:44,710 --> 00:41:41,440
dad came to los angeles as a kid

909
00:41:47,750 --> 00:41:44,720
from phoenix he's um was born in

910
00:41:48,870 --> 00:41:47,760
morenci in arizona then they lived in

911
00:41:51,670 --> 00:41:48,880
phoenix

912
00:41:52,630 --> 00:41:51,680
and then came to l.a very early first

913
00:41:55,430 --> 00:41:52,640
came to la

914
00:41:56,069 --> 00:41:55,440
in uh in van nuys i think is where they

915
00:42:02,550 --> 00:41:56,079
lived

916
00:42:05,270 --> 00:42:02,560
bunker hill and um

917
00:42:06,710 --> 00:42:05,280
when that got kind of torn down to make

918
00:42:10,150 --> 00:42:06,720
angel's flight

919
00:42:12,870 --> 00:42:10,160
uh they moved to uh the flats

920
00:42:14,230 --> 00:42:12,880
and then highland park where grandma's

921
00:42:17,349 --> 00:42:14,240
house was

922
00:42:20,790 --> 00:42:17,359
um he is the oldest

923
00:42:24,630 --> 00:42:20,800
of um six kids

924
00:42:27,910 --> 00:42:24,640
so didn't didn't finish high school

925
00:42:30,390 --> 00:42:27,920
got a job working so you know your

926
00:42:33,670 --> 00:42:30,400
typical kind of um

927
00:42:34,630 --> 00:42:33,680
east l.a highland park story right big

928
00:42:37,990 --> 00:42:34,640
family

929
00:42:39,430 --> 00:42:38,000
grandma's house in highland park on

930
00:42:42,470 --> 00:42:39,440
avenue 45

931
00:42:44,710 --> 00:42:42,480
and my dad worked

932
00:42:45,750 --> 00:42:44,720
and got a job at times mirror press

933
00:42:48,069 --> 00:42:45,760
which is

934
00:42:50,790 --> 00:42:48,079
um like the la times but the pressing

935
00:42:53,349 --> 00:42:50,800
where they where they put out the papers

936
00:42:54,710 --> 00:42:53,359
and he worked there for many years met

937
00:42:56,630 --> 00:42:54,720
my mom there

938
00:42:58,150 --> 00:42:56,640
and then decided when they were going to

939
00:43:00,309 --> 00:42:58,160
have a family that they were going to

940
00:43:03,589 --> 00:43:00,319
like move to the suburbs right so

941
00:43:07,510 --> 00:43:03,599
that that's what alhambra was

942
00:43:09,190 --> 00:43:07,520
so for me growing up there was also

943
00:43:13,109 --> 00:43:09,200
there's also the thing that my dad is

944
00:43:15,589 --> 00:43:13,119
like a total film nerd and

945
00:43:16,790 --> 00:43:15,599
you know in the 70s and 80s when i was

946
00:43:19,589 --> 00:43:16,800
growing up

947
00:43:20,390 --> 00:43:19,599
any movie that my dad wanted to see he

948
00:43:23,829 --> 00:43:20,400
was taking

949
00:43:26,950 --> 00:43:23,839
my brother and i with him so like

950
00:43:27,829 --> 00:43:26,960
i saw every karen black film i saw

951
00:43:31,349 --> 00:43:27,839
everything you know

952
00:43:34,710 --> 00:43:31,359
i saw um star wars

953
00:43:36,630 --> 00:43:34,720
in 77 at the man's at the chinese yeah

954
00:43:38,230 --> 00:43:36,640
you know all the big theaters in

955
00:43:39,990 --> 00:43:38,240
hollywood anywhere

956
00:43:41,589 --> 00:43:40,000
anywhere he wanted to go he took the

957
00:43:45,349 --> 00:43:41,599
kids with him

958
00:43:48,870 --> 00:43:45,359
so my childhood was a mix of

959
00:43:51,910 --> 00:43:48,880
being in really sketchy neighborhoods

960
00:43:53,910 --> 00:43:51,920
with family and then being in like

961
00:43:56,550 --> 00:43:53,920
pasadena and all these kind of like a

962
00:43:59,829 --> 00:43:56,560
little more upper-class middle-class

963
00:44:04,150 --> 00:43:59,839
um background so it gave

964
00:44:06,390 --> 00:44:04,160
me a really interesting perspective um

965
00:44:07,190 --> 00:44:06,400
yeah yeah i got to see a lot of

966
00:44:10,790 --> 00:44:07,200
different things

967
00:44:13,589 --> 00:44:10,800
now this this first uh sighting

968
00:44:14,870 --> 00:44:13,599
uh that happened uh take us to that how

969
00:44:18,309 --> 00:44:14,880
old were you

970
00:44:21,349 --> 00:44:18,319
and this was in alhambra i take it

971
00:44:25,510 --> 00:44:21,359
this is in alhambra

972
00:44:28,630 --> 00:44:25,520
my very first interaction

973
00:44:31,750 --> 00:44:28,640
before all of this so

974
00:44:34,950 --> 00:44:31,760
in 1985 um i

975
00:44:37,510 --> 00:44:34,960
was in fifth grade

976
00:44:39,349 --> 00:44:37,520
and i was your typical latchkey kid okay

977
00:44:42,390 --> 00:44:39,359
in the 80s you could do this

978
00:44:43,670 --> 00:44:42,400
right so i woke up with my alarm my

979
00:44:45,589 --> 00:44:43,680
parents were already like

980
00:44:46,870 --> 00:44:45,599
had left the house to go to work by like

981
00:44:49,829 --> 00:44:46,880
six o'clock in the morning

982
00:44:51,910 --> 00:44:49,839
so at seven i wake up with an alarm i

983
00:44:55,030 --> 00:44:51,920
put on my little school uniform

984
00:44:56,150 --> 00:44:55,040
and i'm walking like four blocks to my

985
00:44:59,670 --> 00:44:56,160
school

986
00:45:01,430 --> 00:44:59,680
and one morning i was

987
00:45:03,750 --> 00:45:01,440
and i had no idea this is related to

988
00:45:03,990 --> 00:45:03,760
anything one morning i'm walking down

989
00:45:08,230 --> 00:45:04,000
the

990
00:45:11,589 --> 00:45:08,240
street and i see on a corner lawn

991
00:45:12,870 --> 00:45:11,599
on the way to school a cat and it's

992
00:45:15,829 --> 00:45:12,880
laying down

993
00:45:16,390 --> 00:45:15,839
and i being a little girl am like oh

994
00:45:19,109 --> 00:45:16,400
kitty

995
00:45:21,270 --> 00:45:19,119
right so i'm walking up like i'm gonna

996
00:45:22,550 --> 00:45:21,280
approach this cat and i'm gonna pet it

997
00:45:24,150 --> 00:45:22,560
and i'm walking kind of carefully

998
00:45:26,390 --> 00:45:24,160
because i don't want to scare the cat

999
00:45:29,109 --> 00:45:26,400
and i walk up to the cat

1000
00:45:29,750 --> 00:45:29,119
and it's laying down and i notice the

1001
00:45:33,109 --> 00:45:29,760
back

1002
00:45:37,670 --> 00:45:33,119
half of the cat is gone

1003
00:45:41,750 --> 00:45:37,680
now this was jarring to me

1004
00:45:44,470 --> 00:45:41,760
not just because you know as as a girl

1005
00:45:46,870 --> 00:45:44,480
with family needs to lay and knowing

1006
00:45:48,950 --> 00:45:46,880
seeing a dog attack or a couple of dogs

1007
00:45:51,190 --> 00:45:48,960
attack in my day like i was no stranger

1008
00:45:52,470 --> 00:45:51,200
to kind of a rougher life right i'd seen

1009
00:45:54,710 --> 00:45:52,480
a lot of stuff

1010
00:45:57,589 --> 00:45:54,720
and i knew what an animal attack looked

1011
00:46:01,270 --> 00:45:57,599
like they they bite to crush

1012
00:46:03,589 --> 00:46:01,280
the rib cage of this cat was

1013
00:46:05,990 --> 00:46:03,599
clean and glossy you could see the bone

1014
00:46:08,790 --> 00:46:06,000
and it looked shiny like tooth enamel

1015
00:46:10,390 --> 00:46:08,800
like a cartoon almost right and there

1016
00:46:14,069 --> 00:46:10,400
was no blood

1017
00:46:16,790 --> 00:46:14,079
and the cat looked asleep and that

1018
00:46:18,950 --> 00:46:16,800
and there was also no bugs something

1019
00:46:22,470 --> 00:46:18,960
about that scene

1020
00:46:23,910 --> 00:46:22,480
stayed with me forever and it never left

1021
00:46:26,870 --> 00:46:23,920
me because something about that i

1022
00:46:28,950 --> 00:46:26,880
just felt really wrong and i walked to

1023
00:46:30,470 --> 00:46:28,960
school and then i didn't talk about it

1024
00:46:32,390 --> 00:46:30,480
and then

1025
00:46:34,069 --> 00:46:32,400
flyers were going up in the neighborhood

1026
00:46:35,589 --> 00:46:34,079
saying that there's a cat butcher in the

1027
00:46:38,710 --> 00:46:35,599
neighborhood

1028
00:46:42,870 --> 00:46:38,720
okay so then now

1029
00:46:45,430 --> 00:46:42,880
a year later 86 saturday morning

1030
00:46:46,550 --> 00:46:45,440
typical saturday morning i wake up i go

1031
00:46:49,670 --> 00:46:46,560
out to the front yard

1032
00:46:53,109 --> 00:46:49,680
my dad is always with his chair um

1033
00:46:54,069 --> 00:46:53,119
and the newspaper and you know an 86 a

1034
00:46:56,069 --> 00:46:54,079
cigarette

1035
00:46:57,829 --> 00:46:56,079
and a cup of coffee and that's what my

1036
00:46:58,790 --> 00:46:57,839
dad did saturday morning out with his

1037
00:47:03,510 --> 00:46:58,800
plants right

1038
00:47:08,230 --> 00:47:03,520
he's outside i go outside and i go um

1039
00:47:10,550 --> 00:47:08,240
what's you know hey dad and he says

1040
00:47:11,829 --> 00:47:10,560
hey did you see a bright light in front

1041
00:47:14,150 --> 00:47:11,839
of the house

1042
00:47:16,150 --> 00:47:14,160
because the two bedrooms my bedroom was

1043
00:47:18,230 --> 00:47:16,160
next to my parents room and so the two

1044
00:47:20,069 --> 00:47:18,240
front windows face the front of the

1045
00:47:21,670 --> 00:47:20,079
house think of these you know 1950s

1046
00:47:25,349 --> 00:47:21,680
ranch houses whatever

1047
00:47:27,190 --> 00:47:25,359
so i said no and he goes mija i had

1048
00:47:29,829 --> 00:47:27,200
the weirdest dream last night and he

1049
00:47:31,990 --> 00:47:29,839
goes but it didn't feel like a dream but

1050
00:47:33,829 --> 00:47:32,000
it had to be a dream and i was like ooh

1051
00:47:36,710 --> 00:47:33,839
okay tell me you know i'm settling

1052
00:47:39,030 --> 00:47:36,720
i'm settling in now and he said there

1053
00:47:42,150 --> 00:47:39,040
was bright light in front of the house

1054
00:47:45,190 --> 00:47:42,160
and i went outside to see what it was

1055
00:47:47,990 --> 00:47:45,200
and i was on a ship and i'm

1056
00:47:49,109 --> 00:47:48,000
thinking because i have no frame of

1057
00:47:51,349 --> 00:47:49,119
reference

1058
00:47:52,950 --> 00:47:51,359
my mind is thinking a pirate ship this

1059
00:47:54,870 --> 00:47:52,960
is when he says i'm on a ship he's

1060
00:47:57,510 --> 00:47:54,880
having a dream he's on a ship

1061
00:47:59,349 --> 00:47:57,520
and he goes no no it was on i was on a

1062
00:48:03,190 --> 00:47:59,359
spaceship

1063
00:48:03,589 --> 00:48:03,200
and then he was telling me about the

1064
00:48:07,430 --> 00:48:03,599
ship

1065
00:48:10,870 --> 00:48:07,440
and there's these like

1066
00:48:13,190 --> 00:48:10,880
panels and it's like a weird windowed tv

1067
00:48:14,630 --> 00:48:13,200
screen something but it's like a really

1068
00:48:17,670 --> 00:48:14,640
clear tv screen

1069
00:48:18,390 --> 00:48:17,680
but each panel is a moment in time and

1070
00:48:21,910 --> 00:48:18,400
some

1071
00:48:23,670 --> 00:48:21,920
seen before like

1072
00:48:25,270 --> 00:48:23,680
like another planet or something and

1073
00:48:28,470 --> 00:48:25,280
then some were like

1074
00:48:30,470 --> 00:48:28,480
old like um prehistoric

1075
00:48:32,710 --> 00:48:30,480
things and then he goes i remember i saw

1076
00:48:35,270 --> 00:48:32,720
one and i could swear it was like a

1077
00:48:35,910 --> 00:48:35,280
boxer from the 1930s that i recognized

1078
00:48:37,430 --> 00:48:35,920
you know

1079
00:48:40,710 --> 00:48:37,440
and there were just different panels in

1080
00:48:43,270 --> 00:48:40,720
time and he said and around each panel

1081
00:48:43,750 --> 00:48:43,280
he said it was egyptian writing that's

1082
00:48:49,910 --> 00:48:43,760
what

1083
00:48:51,270 --> 00:48:49,920
and then he goes and then i saw them and

1084
00:48:55,190 --> 00:48:51,280
i said who

1085
00:48:57,430 --> 00:48:55,200
and he goes the ones in the ship

1086
00:48:58,309 --> 00:48:57,440
and then he like did like a little show

1087
00:49:02,150 --> 00:48:58,319
he's like oh

1088
00:49:03,670 --> 00:49:02,160
and he just said their eyes and i said

1089
00:49:06,150 --> 00:49:03,680
what do you mean and he goes they have

1090
00:49:08,549 --> 00:49:06,160
these big black eyes

1091
00:49:10,390 --> 00:49:08,559
and he and he goes and they talk to you

1092
00:49:12,549 --> 00:49:10,400
with your mind

1093
00:49:13,750 --> 00:49:12,559
and i was like what are you you mean

1094
00:49:17,510 --> 00:49:13,760
like aliens

1095
00:49:20,950 --> 00:49:17,520
and he goes yeah he was just

1096
00:49:22,549 --> 00:49:20,960
freaking out and then he kind of told me

1097
00:49:26,069 --> 00:49:22,559
what they did to him on the ship

1098
00:49:27,750 --> 00:49:26,079
which is the classic um abduction as we

1099
00:49:30,870 --> 00:49:27,760
know it now

1100
00:49:32,630 --> 00:49:30,880
but at that time this wasn't in our

1101
00:49:34,150 --> 00:49:32,640
frame of reference you know

1102
00:49:35,910 --> 00:49:34,160
we weren't really talking about this

1103
00:49:37,750 --> 00:49:35,920
kind of stuff our family used to love to

1104
00:49:38,630 --> 00:49:37,760
talk about like ghost stories and things

1105
00:49:40,069 --> 00:49:38,640
like that because

1106
00:49:41,990 --> 00:49:40,079
they lived in a haunted house at some

1107
00:49:45,430 --> 00:49:42,000
point but we never talked about

1108
00:49:45,829 --> 00:49:45,440
aliens and i and so that was just kind

1109
00:49:49,270 --> 00:49:45,839
of the

1110
00:49:53,030 --> 00:49:49,280
going thing of like dad's dad's e.t

1111
00:49:56,309 --> 00:49:53,040
abduction dream right a year later

1112
00:49:59,349 --> 00:49:56,319
87 i come home from school again

1113
00:50:01,190 --> 00:49:59,359
latchkey kid come home you know um

1114
00:50:03,190 --> 00:50:01,200
get dressed have a change out of my

1115
00:50:04,230 --> 00:50:03,200
uniform have a snack and i throw on the

1116
00:50:06,150 --> 00:50:04,240
tv

1117
00:50:07,829 --> 00:50:06,160
and you know channel seven three o'clock

1118
00:50:09,990 --> 00:50:07,839
oprah's on

1119
00:50:11,750 --> 00:50:10,000
and oprah's interviewing a guy named

1120
00:50:15,430 --> 00:50:11,760
whitley strieber

1121
00:50:18,309 --> 00:50:15,440
but they show the cover of communion

1122
00:50:20,549 --> 00:50:18,319
and it's a picture that my dad drew of

1123
00:50:23,190 --> 00:50:20,559
the things on the ship

1124
00:50:23,750 --> 00:50:23,200
and i am just like blown away and i'm

1125
00:50:26,630 --> 00:50:23,760
like

1126
00:50:28,549 --> 00:50:26,640
hold up what is this and i'm really

1127
00:50:30,390 --> 00:50:28,559
excited and so by the time my dad gets

1128
00:50:31,910 --> 00:50:30,400
home from work at like five o'clock

1129
00:50:33,670 --> 00:50:31,920
i like run up to the door and i was like

1130
00:50:35,349 --> 00:50:33,680
dad there's a thing

1131
00:50:37,990 --> 00:50:35,359
and on oprah and there's a book and

1132
00:50:40,069 --> 00:50:38,000
there's a guy who has seen the et's and

1133
00:50:41,829 --> 00:50:40,079
the same thing happened to him and let's

1134
00:50:42,549 --> 00:50:41,839
go to romans let's go to romans let's

1135
00:50:44,470 --> 00:50:42,559
get the book

1136
00:50:47,670 --> 00:50:44,480
right because romans for those who don't

1137
00:50:50,790 --> 00:50:47,680
know is the big bookstore in pasadena

1138
00:50:52,390 --> 00:50:50,800
colorado boulevard right and i'm like

1139
00:50:54,309 --> 00:50:52,400
okay let's go to romans let's go get the

1140
00:50:56,630 --> 00:50:54,319
book and he was like

1141
00:50:57,829 --> 00:50:56,640
he kind of stopped and he was like yeah

1142
00:50:59,190 --> 00:50:57,839
well all right

1143
00:51:01,349 --> 00:50:59,200
all right well you know he kind of gave

1144
00:51:05,349 --> 00:51:01,359
me the little the the nice dad

1145
00:51:07,270 --> 00:51:05,359
brush off next thing i knew the book was

1146
00:51:10,630 --> 00:51:07,280
in the house

1147
00:51:11,990 --> 00:51:10,640
so i'm guessing he just didn't want me

1148
00:51:15,030 --> 00:51:12,000
there when he got it

1149
00:51:19,109 --> 00:51:15,040
you know something like that so

1150
00:51:22,230 --> 00:51:19,119
that was that was that

1151
00:51:24,309 --> 00:51:22,240
now peppered into this

1152
00:51:26,710 --> 00:51:24,319
we've always seen strange lights in the

1153
00:51:30,150 --> 00:51:26,720
sky things moving

1154
00:51:32,069 --> 00:51:30,160
there was a time that um that my brother

1155
00:51:34,309 --> 00:51:32,079
reminded me of

1156
00:51:36,069 --> 00:51:34,319
where one day you know he was like in

1157
00:51:37,589 --> 00:51:36,079
his he was like 20 or something

1158
00:51:38,950 --> 00:51:37,599
and he was coming home my brother was

1159
00:51:39,990 --> 00:51:38,960
always kind of like moved out of the

1160
00:51:41,829 --> 00:51:40,000
house move back in

1161
00:51:44,150 --> 00:51:41,839
move out you know and we were just

1162
00:51:45,829 --> 00:51:44,160
having our young fun lives i was a

1163
00:51:47,670 --> 00:51:45,839
teenager

1164
00:51:48,950 --> 00:51:47,680
one day joe was sleeping on the couch in

1165
00:51:52,390 --> 00:51:48,960
the living room

1166
00:51:54,630 --> 00:51:52,400
and my dad walked out to the front door

1167
00:51:55,510 --> 00:51:54,640
and he woke he woke up joe and he was

1168
00:51:57,430 --> 00:51:55,520
like joe

1169
00:51:58,950 --> 00:51:57,440
joe do you see this come on come out

1170
00:51:59,910 --> 00:51:58,960
here and tell me if you see this what is

1171
00:52:02,790 --> 00:51:59,920
this

1172
00:52:03,109 --> 00:52:02,800
and it was like a cigar-shaped saucer

1173
00:52:06,150 --> 00:52:03,119
like

1174
00:52:09,750 --> 00:52:06,160
in front of the house um

1175
00:52:13,109 --> 00:52:09,760
and joe saw it too and as soon as joe

1176
00:52:14,549 --> 00:52:13,119
confirmed it my dad was like okay good

1177
00:52:16,829 --> 00:52:14,559
all right you can go to bed now like he

1178
00:52:19,670 --> 00:52:16,839
just needed someone else to see it you

1179
00:52:23,270 --> 00:52:19,680
know and that was that

1180
00:52:27,589 --> 00:52:23,280
and that was the extent

1181
00:52:30,870 --> 00:52:27,599
of the ufo talk in my house

1182
00:52:34,549 --> 00:52:30,880
until 2016.

1183
00:52:37,750 --> 00:52:34,559
now what what i find uh so amazing

1184
00:52:40,870 --> 00:52:37,760
uh about this is

1185
00:52:42,470 --> 00:52:40,880
your your dad never all of this caught

1186
00:52:44,069 --> 00:52:42,480
you by surprise

1187
00:52:46,710 --> 00:52:44,079
right and you're you know for the first

1188
00:52:49,190 --> 00:52:46,720
time your dad it's your dad

1189
00:52:49,750 --> 00:52:49,200
saying hey i was on a ship this happened

1190
00:52:52,790 --> 00:52:49,760
these

1191
00:52:55,670 --> 00:52:52,800
creatures and things that had to

1192
00:52:56,230 --> 00:52:55,680
have completely you know taken you off

1193
00:52:59,349 --> 00:52:56,240
guard

1194
00:53:02,870 --> 00:52:59,359
number one but number two

1195
00:53:05,670 --> 00:53:02,880
what was his demeanor like

1196
00:53:06,470 --> 00:53:05,680
you know did he change was he a crazy

1197
00:53:07,990 --> 00:53:06,480
guy

1198
00:53:10,630 --> 00:53:08,000
was he somebody that you didn't

1199
00:53:14,390 --> 00:53:10,640
understand anymore

1200
00:53:17,109 --> 00:53:14,400
were you was he matter of fact you know

1201
00:53:17,750 --> 00:53:17,119
take me to that moment because he must

1202
00:53:32,069 --> 00:53:17,760
have

1203
00:53:35,510 --> 00:53:32,079
my dad and i are very close and like

1204
00:53:38,549 --> 00:53:35,520
we can talk about anything and

1205
00:53:42,710 --> 00:53:38,559
my dad has had a you know

1206
00:53:46,630 --> 00:53:42,720
a lifetime of crazy experiences himself

1207
00:53:50,549 --> 00:53:46,640
just he just has these crazy stories

1208
00:53:54,710 --> 00:53:50,559
of incredible luck

1209
00:53:57,349 --> 00:53:54,720
and um just high strangeness

1210
00:53:57,829 --> 00:53:57,359
i guess like is in our dna like it and

1211
00:54:01,510 --> 00:53:57,839
so

1212
00:54:04,630 --> 00:54:01,520
to the point where it's commonplace

1213
00:54:07,109 --> 00:54:04,640
it is not it was not uncommon

1214
00:54:08,790 --> 00:54:07,119
when grandma was alive every holiday was

1215
00:54:11,190 --> 00:54:08,800
at grandma's house right so we're in

1216
00:54:13,510 --> 00:54:11,200
highland park for every holiday

1217
00:54:14,790 --> 00:54:13,520
for every holiday included everyone's

1218
00:54:16,790 --> 00:54:14,800
going to grandma's house

1219
00:54:18,870 --> 00:54:16,800
there's going to be a lot of food at

1220
00:54:22,230 --> 00:54:18,880
some point there's going to be poker

1221
00:54:24,950 --> 00:54:22,240
and you bring your money you get to play

1222
00:54:25,829 --> 00:54:24,960
and nobody cares how old you are or what

1223
00:54:27,910 --> 00:54:25,839
you're gonna do

1224
00:54:29,510 --> 00:54:27,920
once you get to the table you got money

1225
00:54:30,470 --> 00:54:29,520
we're playing poker i'm gonna take your

1226
00:54:32,870 --> 00:54:30,480
money

1227
00:54:34,710 --> 00:54:32,880
so you gotta know that going in and

1228
00:54:36,789 --> 00:54:34,720
there's always beer happening

1229
00:54:38,470 --> 00:54:36,799
and then the night is always gonna end

1230
00:54:41,190 --> 00:54:38,480
with people telling their

1231
00:54:42,870 --> 00:54:41,200
ghost stories or high strangeness now is

1232
00:54:44,390 --> 00:54:42,880
the word we use but

1233
00:54:46,710 --> 00:54:44,400
they're all going to tell the stories of

1234
00:54:47,750 --> 00:54:46,720
their past from the haunted house in

1235
00:54:50,789 --> 00:54:47,760
lincoln heights

1236
00:54:52,870 --> 00:54:50,799
to um just all these other whatever

1237
00:54:56,630 --> 00:54:52,880
whatever the story was

1238
00:55:00,630 --> 00:54:56,640
and so him having this one

1239
00:55:03,510 --> 00:55:00,640
was different in that he was a lot more

1240
00:55:06,710 --> 00:55:03,520
reflective about it

1241
00:55:08,789 --> 00:55:06,720
like he genuinely was having an

1242
00:55:11,990 --> 00:55:08,799
experience where he was

1243
00:55:15,349 --> 00:55:12,000
asking himself was that a dream

1244
00:55:17,589 --> 00:55:15,359
like that he was almost convincing

1245
00:55:19,109 --> 00:55:17,599
himself that it must have been a dream

1246
00:55:20,470 --> 00:55:19,119
because he he didn't know where to put

1247
00:55:22,390 --> 00:55:20,480
it

1248
00:55:23,990 --> 00:55:22,400
dude like he just he didn't know what to

1249
00:55:25,589 --> 00:55:24,000
do with that experience

1250
00:55:27,030 --> 00:55:25,599
and i think then you know his daughter

1251
00:55:28,710 --> 00:55:27,040
coming up going hey by the way you're

1252
00:55:31,990 --> 00:55:28,720
not the only one

1253
00:55:33,190 --> 00:55:32,000
that just kind of threw him i think but

1254
00:55:36,870 --> 00:55:33,200
he didn't really

1255
00:55:39,430 --> 00:55:36,880
talk about it did uh did he

1256
00:55:41,589 --> 00:55:39,440
did he ever share this story after after

1257
00:55:43,430 --> 00:55:41,599
poker night

1258
00:55:45,349 --> 00:55:43,440
did he share it you know with the ghost

1259
00:55:48,710 --> 00:55:45,359
stories did he talk about

1260
00:55:49,990 --> 00:55:48,720
his trip on the flying saucer yeah yeah

1261
00:55:52,150 --> 00:55:50,000
he shared it with the brothers and

1262
00:55:53,750 --> 00:55:52,160
sisters and all and the nephews and

1263
00:55:54,470 --> 00:55:53,760
nieces you know because there's a lot of

1264
00:55:57,510 --> 00:55:54,480
cousins and

1265
00:55:59,430 --> 00:55:57,520
like yeah he he shared it and everyone

1266
00:56:00,950 --> 00:55:59,440
was just kind of like the reaction was

1267
00:56:11,030 --> 00:56:00,960
like

1268
00:56:17,030 --> 00:56:14,390
that's our family um right

1269
00:56:18,230 --> 00:56:17,040
did the uh did the cover of the

1270
00:56:25,829 --> 00:56:18,240
communion book

1271
00:56:30,710 --> 00:56:28,549
he said that though that's the one those

1272
00:56:35,109 --> 00:56:30,720
are the ones

1273
00:56:38,390 --> 00:56:35,119
and and he said it with a little bit of

1274
00:56:39,349 --> 00:56:38,400
relief of validation and uh just a

1275
00:56:42,789 --> 00:56:39,359
little bit of like

1276
00:56:46,150 --> 00:56:42,799
what the heck is going on here like just

1277
00:56:49,990 --> 00:56:46,160
that like like dumbfounded you know

1278
00:56:53,030 --> 00:56:50,000
just stunned um the cover of the book

1279
00:56:56,069 --> 00:56:53,040
stirs emotions with everybody still uh

1280
00:56:58,470 --> 00:56:56,079
with me uh today somebody just

1281
00:57:00,230 --> 00:56:58,480
cassandra just posted uh the cover of

1282
00:57:03,589 --> 00:57:00,240
communion here

1283
00:57:06,309 --> 00:57:03,599
and it's uh it's something that

1284
00:57:07,670 --> 00:57:06,319
i think affects everybody and for their

1285
00:57:11,190 --> 00:57:07,680
own reasons

1286
00:57:12,710 --> 00:57:11,200
um now as we uh uh head to a break here

1287
00:57:16,549 --> 00:57:12,720
we're gonna come back

1288
00:57:17,670 --> 00:57:16,559
and and get into 2016 but i want to set

1289
00:57:22,549 --> 00:57:17,680
that up

1290
00:57:27,190 --> 00:57:22,559
um and well well we'll talk about 2016

1291
00:57:29,670 --> 00:57:27,200
but between 1988 1987 1988

1292
00:57:31,430 --> 00:57:29,680
and and 2016 we're talking about almost

1293
00:57:34,549 --> 00:57:31,440
20 years there

1294
00:57:37,990 --> 00:57:34,559
um and with no high strangeness right

1295
00:57:39,990 --> 00:57:38,000
am i understanding this correctly

1296
00:57:41,190 --> 00:57:40,000
you're the one that wanted to jump right

1297
00:57:45,190 --> 00:57:41,200
you wanted to jump

1298
00:57:50,390 --> 00:57:45,200
listen you this is this is ufo wise

1299
00:57:53,990 --> 00:57:50,400
2020 is when i found out i was a medium

1300
00:57:55,750 --> 00:57:54,000
and that i thought everybody had voices

1301
00:57:57,670 --> 00:57:55,760
you know there's always this talk about

1302
00:57:58,789 --> 00:57:57,680
oh your inner voice your inner voice and

1303
00:58:00,630 --> 00:57:58,799
i always thought

1304
00:58:01,829 --> 00:58:00,640
oh yeah i got i got a pretty good inner

1305
00:58:03,270 --> 00:58:01,839
voice i got a couple of them

1306
00:58:04,870 --> 00:58:03,280
well actually i got a lot of them not

1307
00:58:08,150 --> 00:58:04,880
all of them are me but you know

1308
00:58:10,309 --> 00:58:08,160
like this is my thinking all through

1309
00:58:11,589 --> 00:58:10,319
my teens and twenties and i'm getting

1310
00:58:15,190 --> 00:58:11,599
out of like

1311
00:58:16,470 --> 00:58:15,200
serious situations because one voice in

1312
00:58:18,870 --> 00:58:16,480
particular

1313
00:58:19,589 --> 00:58:18,880
is telling me you know i'm walking into

1314
00:58:21,910 --> 00:58:19,599
a party

1315
00:58:23,589 --> 00:58:21,920
and i'm hearing stay away from that one

1316
00:58:24,870 --> 00:58:23,599
see that one over there and go to bed

1317
00:58:26,309 --> 00:58:24,880
and this is going on with this one and

1318
00:58:26,789 --> 00:58:26,319
don't talk to this one and move over

1319
00:58:30,230 --> 00:58:26,799
here

1320
00:58:33,829 --> 00:58:30,240
things like that

1321
00:58:36,309 --> 00:58:33,839
which i think everybody happens and

1322
00:58:37,030 --> 00:58:36,319
and so it's not until 2012 that i find

1323
00:58:39,670 --> 00:58:37,040
out

1324
00:58:40,789 --> 00:58:39,680
that that's actually called mediumship

1325
00:58:42,390 --> 00:58:40,799
and then

1326
00:58:45,990 --> 00:58:42,400
that's what kind of starts me on my

1327
00:58:47,349 --> 00:58:46,000
journey ufo stuff comes in 2016 and

1328
00:58:50,549 --> 00:58:47,359
you're a huge part of that

1329
00:58:51,510 --> 00:58:50,559
yeah and uh it's also very interesting

1330
00:58:54,069 --> 00:58:51,520
too as well

1331
00:58:55,430 --> 00:58:54,079
because uh although i've got to take a

1332
00:58:59,750 --> 00:58:55,440
quick break

1333
00:59:02,870 --> 00:58:59,760
i um uh in talking to you

1334
00:59:05,589 --> 00:59:02,880
uh one night i thought

1335
00:59:06,390 --> 00:59:05,599
that you had been listening to fade to

1336
00:59:08,470 --> 00:59:06,400
black and

1337
00:59:09,589 --> 00:59:08,480
and you know from from the start of the

1338
00:59:12,150 --> 00:59:09,599
show and things

1339
00:59:12,870 --> 00:59:12,160
and then you you told me how all of this

1340
00:59:17,190 --> 00:59:12,880
happened

1341
00:59:19,990 --> 00:59:17,200
how i came into your life

1342
00:59:20,630 --> 00:59:20,000
and i was just blown away by all of that

1343
00:59:23,750 --> 00:59:20,640
so

1344
00:59:25,349 --> 00:59:23,760
we will pick things up in 2016

1345
00:59:27,190 --> 00:59:25,359
when we come back right after this short

1346
00:59:29,589 --> 00:59:27,200
break this is fade to black

1347
00:59:31,190 --> 00:59:29,599
i am your host jimmy church i am looking

1348
00:59:34,789 --> 00:59:31,200
am i in the right

1349
00:59:37,510 --> 00:59:34,799
sequence here i am new bunker lucinda

1350
00:59:39,030 --> 00:59:37,520
yeah pretty crazy i'm good yeah i know

1351
00:59:39,910 --> 00:59:39,040
that screen in the back i know that's

1352
00:59:41,589 --> 00:59:39,920
great

1353
00:59:43,430 --> 00:59:41,599
this is fade to black you've sat in

1354
00:59:44,309 --> 00:59:43,440
front of it many times i'm your host

1355
00:59:46,549 --> 00:59:44,319
jimmy church

1356
00:59:47,510 --> 00:59:46,559
our guest tonight lucinda morale

1357
00:59:49,829 --> 00:59:47,520
tomorrow night

1358
00:59:51,190 --> 00:59:49,839
rescheduled kathleen martin who was with

1359
00:59:53,270 --> 00:59:51,200
us last night

1360
01:00:01,240 --> 00:59:53,280
is with us tomorrow stay with us we'll

1361
01:00:12,390 --> 01:00:01,250
be right back

1362
01:00:14,710 --> 01:00:12,400
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1363
01:00:16,870 --> 01:00:14,720
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1369
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1401
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01:05:08,390 --> 01:04:54,400
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1483
01:05:12,309 --> 01:05:11,760
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1484
01:05:14,789 --> 01:05:12,319
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1485
01:05:15,430 --> 01:05:14,799
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1486
01:05:17,670 --> 01:05:15,440
martin

1487
01:05:18,789 --> 01:05:17,680
is rescheduled last night we had a

1488
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little issue

1489
01:05:23,190 --> 01:05:20,720
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1490
01:05:26,150 --> 01:05:23,200
night no fader night

1491
01:05:27,029 --> 01:05:26,160
all right now uh during the break i had

1492
01:05:30,150 --> 01:05:27,039
this uh

1493
01:05:32,309 --> 01:05:30,160
uh light that uh

1494
01:05:33,670 --> 01:05:32,319
it looks great the color's great but it

1495
01:05:35,750 --> 01:05:33,680
was blinking

1496
01:05:37,750 --> 01:05:35,760
and i swear i was getting ready to go

1497
01:05:41,109 --> 01:05:37,760
into some kind of trance

1498
01:05:43,349 --> 01:05:41,119
and i just i had to turn it off so um

1499
01:05:45,029 --> 01:05:43,359
what so that's we'll have it fixed by

1500
01:05:47,190 --> 01:05:45,039
tomorrow but tonight

1501
01:05:48,069 --> 01:05:47,200
uh just so i don't go into some

1502
01:05:51,349 --> 01:05:48,079
epileptic

1503
01:05:54,230 --> 01:05:51,359
uh seizure uh on the show

1504
01:05:56,710 --> 01:05:54,240
had to uh change that so lucinda look i

1505
01:05:59,109 --> 01:05:56,720
look all ghosty and creepy now

1506
01:05:59,750 --> 01:05:59,119
now we're settling in for spooky stories

1507
01:06:01,190 --> 01:05:59,760
yeah man this

1508
01:06:03,029 --> 01:06:01,200
is cool it was pretty cool i'm kind of

1509
01:06:05,910 --> 01:06:03,039
digging it yeah

1510
01:06:06,470 --> 01:06:05,920
and uh uh i don't know maybe you know

1511
01:06:08,789 --> 01:06:06,480
maybe

1512
01:06:09,829 --> 01:06:08,799
uh we'll continue this i i don't know

1513
01:06:14,309 --> 01:06:09,839
okay so

1514
01:06:19,349 --> 01:06:14,319
um uh 2016.

1515
01:06:22,950 --> 01:06:19,359
let's uh let's go what happened in 2016

1516
01:06:26,390 --> 01:06:22,960
oh 2016 is where it all begins

1517
01:06:27,829 --> 01:06:26,400
okay all right settle in faders here we

1518
01:06:32,150 --> 01:06:27,839
go

1519
01:06:32,950 --> 01:06:32,160
so 2012 i find out i'm a medium and i

1520
01:06:34,789 --> 01:06:32,960
have to do

1521
01:06:36,710 --> 01:06:34,799
i don't know what that means and so i do

1522
01:06:38,549 --> 01:06:36,720
what i like to call psychic school

1523
01:06:40,549 --> 01:06:38,559
which is i found a lady she takes your

1524
01:06:42,349 --> 01:06:40,559
classes she takes you know hand-picks

1525
01:06:45,029 --> 01:06:42,359
her classes and she teaches you the

1526
01:06:48,390 --> 01:06:45,039
fundamentals of that type of thing

1527
01:06:49,990 --> 01:06:48,400
so now by 2016 i'm doing readings like

1528
01:06:53,589 --> 01:06:50,000
mediumship readings

1529
01:06:56,789 --> 01:06:53,599
okay and the way i

1530
01:07:00,230 --> 01:06:56,799
work is that messages just

1531
01:07:02,549 --> 01:07:00,240
come in and i'll be doing a random thing

1532
01:07:03,990 --> 01:07:02,559
and all of a sudden i get these random

1533
01:07:08,390 --> 01:07:04,000
messages

1534
01:07:08,789 --> 01:07:08,400
so early early 2016. let me back up just

1535
01:07:11,910 --> 01:07:08,799
to

1536
01:07:14,710 --> 01:07:11,920
late 2015 okay it's around

1537
01:07:16,150 --> 01:07:14,720
you know um it was actually september

1538
01:07:19,829 --> 01:07:16,160
i'm blow drying my hair

1539
01:07:21,829 --> 01:07:19,839
i hear one word it says shaman

1540
01:07:23,109 --> 01:07:21,839
and i throw my hands up and i put the

1541
01:07:24,230 --> 01:07:23,119
blow dryer down and throw my hands up

1542
01:07:27,190 --> 01:07:24,240
and i'm like ah no

1543
01:07:29,029 --> 01:07:27,200
no no no no shaman no no no what is this

1544
01:07:32,069 --> 01:07:29,039
thing forget it

1545
01:07:35,270 --> 01:07:32,079
and then i said tell me more

1546
01:07:38,069 --> 01:07:35,280
and of course it's you know spirit so

1547
01:07:39,750 --> 01:07:38,079
you don't get it they don't they don't

1548
01:07:41,430 --> 01:07:39,760
listen to you and tell you what you want

1549
01:07:45,190 --> 01:07:41,440
to hear you just wait

1550
01:07:49,430 --> 01:07:45,200
so then about um october i hear it again

1551
01:07:52,710 --> 01:07:49,440
shaman and then by by november

1552
01:07:55,430 --> 01:07:52,720
you need a shaman and then

1553
01:07:56,069 --> 01:07:55,440
december because i'm thinking now i'm

1554
01:07:57,670 --> 01:07:56,079
freaking out

1555
01:07:59,750 --> 01:07:57,680
shaman i don't know any shamans what do

1556
01:08:00,549 --> 01:07:59,760
you mean i met a shaman in sedona back

1557
01:08:03,589 --> 01:08:00,559
in 2012

1558
01:08:04,870 --> 01:08:03,599
i don't know in december it was you need

1559
01:08:07,750 --> 01:08:04,880
a shaman

1560
01:08:08,789 --> 01:08:07,760
and she can help you so i know i need to

1561
01:08:11,029 --> 01:08:08,799
meet

1562
01:08:12,950 --> 01:08:11,039
a shaman and it's a woman and so of

1563
01:08:14,150 --> 01:08:12,960
course i'm like okay now where am i

1564
01:08:16,630 --> 01:08:14,160
going to meet

1565
01:08:18,390 --> 01:08:16,640
find a female shaman and i don't even

1566
01:08:21,510 --> 01:08:18,400
know anything about this

1567
01:08:24,550 --> 01:08:21,520
so what very early

1568
01:08:28,630 --> 01:08:24,560
2016. i'm doing a a

1569
01:08:30,789 --> 01:08:28,640
reading for a client and

1570
01:08:32,390 --> 01:08:30,799
it's a going as a typical mediumship

1571
01:08:34,709 --> 01:08:32,400
reading okay

1572
01:08:35,749 --> 01:08:34,719
and so i you know the spirit of the the

1573
01:08:39,189 --> 01:08:35,759
loved one

1574
01:08:41,749 --> 01:08:39,199
is there and i go through his passing

1575
01:08:43,829 --> 01:08:41,759
and that's the guy and it turns out that

1576
01:08:46,950 --> 01:08:43,839
yes and and she was married before

1577
01:08:48,950 --> 01:08:46,960
and and that's him and okay that's going

1578
01:08:52,470 --> 01:08:48,960
weird that's going fine

1579
01:08:54,630 --> 01:08:52,480
then it gets a little weird because

1580
01:08:56,470 --> 01:08:54,640
so in mediumship readings you're kind of

1581
01:08:58,070 --> 01:08:56,480
tapping into this other side

1582
01:08:59,749 --> 01:08:58,080
and you're kind of seeing things in this

1583
01:09:01,030 --> 01:08:59,759
intuitive way right

1584
01:09:03,110 --> 01:09:01,040
fader knots know exactly what i'm

1585
01:09:04,550 --> 01:09:03,120
talking about right so i'm

1586
01:09:07,829 --> 01:09:04,560
i'm sitting with this client and i'm

1587
01:09:09,349 --> 01:09:07,839
going all right listen

1588
01:09:09,870 --> 01:09:09,359
i don't want to freak you out or

1589
01:09:11,110 --> 01:09:09,880
anything

1590
01:09:15,189 --> 01:09:11,120
[Music]

1591
01:09:19,349 --> 01:09:15,199
but there's a very tall

1592
01:09:23,669 --> 01:09:19,359
air quotes man standing in the corner

1593
01:09:27,189 --> 01:09:23,679
and he's really watching us

1594
01:09:28,789 --> 01:09:27,199
um kind of like monitoring is the word i

1595
01:09:32,070 --> 01:09:28,799
want to use

1596
01:09:36,229 --> 01:09:32,080
and i'm trying to talk

1597
01:09:39,349 --> 01:09:36,239
to engage with this quote-unquote man

1598
01:09:41,669 --> 01:09:39,359
and and this is something

1599
01:09:43,829 --> 01:09:41,679
this is how i described a tour i said

1600
01:09:48,390 --> 01:09:43,839
human spirits

1601
01:09:50,309 --> 01:09:48,400
resonate at a certain vibration

1602
01:09:51,910 --> 01:09:50,319
and it's that vibration is different a

1603
01:09:53,749 --> 01:09:51,920
human vibration is different from the

1604
01:09:56,709 --> 01:09:53,759
vibration of an animal

1605
01:09:57,430 --> 01:09:56,719
is different from a vibration of um an

1606
01:09:59,350 --> 01:09:57,440
angelic

1607
01:10:00,870 --> 01:09:59,360
being or something all these other

1608
01:10:04,870 --> 01:10:00,880
different things

1609
01:10:05,750 --> 01:10:04,880
i said this dude is vibrating at a

1610
01:10:09,110 --> 01:10:05,760
resonance

1611
01:10:11,750 --> 01:10:09,120
that is blowing me away first of all

1612
01:10:13,430 --> 01:10:11,760
and i'm kind of freaking out because

1613
01:10:16,390 --> 01:10:13,440
this thing is

1614
01:10:17,990 --> 01:10:16,400
very intelligent and every time i kind

1615
01:10:21,669 --> 01:10:18,000
of energetically try to get

1616
01:10:26,310 --> 01:10:21,679
close to him he pulls back

1617
01:10:28,390 --> 01:10:26,320
and he's fuzzing out his face on purpose

1618
01:10:30,709 --> 01:10:28,400
and he's wearing a suit that looks like

1619
01:10:32,709 --> 01:10:30,719
from the 1950s i was thinking like

1620
01:10:33,430 --> 01:10:32,719
dragnet like with the fedora like

1621
01:10:36,470 --> 01:10:33,440
covering his

1622
01:10:38,550 --> 01:10:36,480
face and so i'm doing like my psychic

1623
01:10:39,030 --> 01:10:38,560
eye is squinting trying to figure out

1624
01:10:42,550 --> 01:10:39,040
like

1625
01:10:44,790 --> 01:10:42,560
what who is this guy and she says

1626
01:10:48,950 --> 01:10:44,800
without skipping a beat

1627
01:10:53,590 --> 01:10:48,960
i'm an abductee and that's who takes me

1628
01:10:58,709 --> 01:10:56,950
and she and i said i'd like you know

1629
01:11:00,229 --> 01:10:58,719
i did it was the whole record scratch

1630
01:11:03,669 --> 01:11:00,239
moment i was like

1631
01:11:07,350 --> 01:11:03,679
wait what and she says i'm an abductee

1632
01:11:11,189 --> 01:11:07,360
and ever since i was a t is a child but

1633
01:11:13,430 --> 01:11:11,199
as a teen he would come at night

1634
01:11:14,870 --> 01:11:13,440
and then he would take me on a ship and

1635
01:11:17,590 --> 01:11:14,880
they would put something

1636
01:11:19,590 --> 01:11:17,600
inside of me and then i would wake up

1637
01:11:20,390 --> 01:11:19,600
and i wouldn't have a period for five

1638
01:11:24,790 --> 01:11:20,400
months

1639
01:11:26,149 --> 01:11:24,800
back and they would take me up

1640
01:11:28,070 --> 01:11:26,159
and when they would take something out

1641
01:11:28,950 --> 01:11:28,080
of me and the next morning i would have

1642
01:11:32,310 --> 01:11:28,960
a period

1643
01:11:34,630 --> 01:11:32,320
and this happened for many many years

1644
01:11:37,270 --> 01:11:34,640
now hold the phone okay let's just pump

1645
01:11:41,030 --> 01:11:37,280
the brakes right there

1646
01:11:45,030 --> 01:11:41,040
right um did you describe

1647
01:11:48,310 --> 01:11:45,040
the fedora and the suit to her

1648
01:11:49,750 --> 01:11:48,320
yes okay described him exactly and she

1649
01:11:53,110 --> 01:11:49,760
knew exactly who it was

1650
01:11:55,669 --> 01:11:53,120
right right right and now and i know

1651
01:11:57,270 --> 01:11:55,679
that i've asked you this question before

1652
01:11:59,750 --> 01:11:57,280
but this is when you and i

1653
01:12:02,950 --> 01:11:59,760
uh we're talking about this privately so

1654
01:12:06,630 --> 01:12:02,960
let me ask this question again

1655
01:12:08,390 --> 01:12:06,640
did she see him i want the audience to

1656
01:12:11,910 --> 01:12:08,400
understand it's lucinda

1657
01:12:15,350 --> 01:12:11,920
and her client in an office the two

1658
01:12:17,750 --> 01:12:15,360
are alone lucinda sees dude

1659
01:12:20,790 --> 01:12:17,760
standing in the corner as described in a

1660
01:12:23,110 --> 01:12:20,800
suit in the fedora

1661
01:12:24,630 --> 01:12:23,120
and they talk about this and and that

1662
01:12:29,669 --> 01:12:24,640
goes down

1663
01:12:35,430 --> 01:12:29,679
but did she see him

1664
01:12:41,110 --> 01:12:38,950
so yeah and i'm like

1665
01:12:42,950 --> 01:12:41,120
somewhat like an alien like you know

1666
01:12:44,470 --> 01:12:42,960
that now i'm completely unprofessional

1667
01:12:47,110 --> 01:12:44,480
at this point because i'm just like what

1668
01:12:48,550 --> 01:12:47,120
like dude stop because you know you

1669
01:12:51,430 --> 01:12:48,560
don't know about

1670
01:12:52,709 --> 01:12:51,440
the hybrid programs or abductions or

1671
01:12:54,470 --> 01:12:52,719
things or no

1672
01:12:57,350 --> 01:12:54,480
you know everything that you know now

1673
01:12:59,510 --> 01:12:57,360
right now she's telling you all of this

1674
01:13:02,550 --> 01:12:59,520
for the first time

1675
01:13:05,750 --> 01:13:02,560
yes yes

1676
01:13:06,709 --> 01:13:05,760
and there's another side element which i

1677
01:13:09,350 --> 01:13:06,719
won't even

1678
01:13:10,709 --> 01:13:09,360
super get into but it's of a different

1679
01:13:14,709 --> 01:13:10,719
nature it's of a more

1680
01:13:18,070 --> 01:13:14,719
etheric like fairy type

1681
01:13:22,229 --> 01:13:18,080
nature the night before this reading

1682
01:13:25,110 --> 01:13:22,239
these two little weird looking beings

1683
01:13:27,110 --> 01:13:25,120
were in my house and this is on a this

1684
01:13:30,070 --> 01:13:27,120
is not like physically this is it on a

1685
01:13:31,669 --> 01:13:30,080
like a there's an energy of these two

1686
01:13:34,790 --> 01:13:31,679
little beings

1687
01:13:36,790 --> 01:13:34,800
and i was putting my youngest to sleep

1688
01:13:38,070 --> 01:13:36,800
at this point he's like two years old

1689
01:13:39,430 --> 01:13:38,080
and you know how you have to do that

1690
01:13:40,709 --> 01:13:39,440
thing where you have to lay down with a

1691
01:13:42,470 --> 01:13:40,719
little one and then when they crash out

1692
01:13:45,430 --> 01:13:42,480
you have to kind of sneak out of the bed

1693
01:13:46,950 --> 01:13:45,440
so i'm doing that and my little one is

1694
01:13:47,270 --> 01:13:46,960
crashed out and i'm about to kind of

1695
01:13:49,750 --> 01:13:47,280
like

1696
01:13:51,189 --> 01:13:49,760
sneak out out of the room and the door

1697
01:13:55,110 --> 01:13:51,199
is a little bit of jar

1698
01:13:58,870 --> 01:13:55,120
and i see these two grotesquely

1699
01:14:01,990 --> 01:13:58,880
weird looking beings pop their head

1700
01:14:04,630 --> 01:14:02,000
into my kid's room now

1701
01:14:05,430 --> 01:14:04,640
i have serious protections around my

1702
01:14:08,229 --> 01:14:05,440
house

1703
01:14:09,350 --> 01:14:08,239
and if something so nothing can get in

1704
01:14:12,229 --> 01:14:09,360
unless

1705
01:14:12,790 --> 01:14:12,239
if it if it has mal intent it can't get

1706
01:14:17,750 --> 01:14:12,800
in

1707
01:14:21,270 --> 01:14:17,760
they look ugly but their energy is not

1708
01:14:25,510 --> 01:14:21,280
bad at all they just look really weird

1709
01:14:28,870 --> 01:14:25,520
and i say uh hello

1710
01:14:31,510 --> 01:14:28,880
and they say you're gonna see

1711
01:14:32,310 --> 01:14:31,520
so and so tomorrow and they named the

1712
01:14:35,910 --> 01:14:32,320
client

1713
01:14:36,550 --> 01:14:35,920
and i said yes and then poof they were

1714
01:14:39,910 --> 01:14:36,560
gone

1715
01:14:44,390 --> 01:14:39,920
now uh i uh without naming

1716
01:14:50,550 --> 01:14:47,430
i do okay okay okay

1717
01:14:51,110 --> 01:14:50,560
all right i i'm just curious i'm just

1718
01:14:54,630 --> 01:14:51,120
curious

1719
01:14:57,430 --> 01:14:54,640
okay so uh what happened

1720
01:14:57,910 --> 01:14:57,440
what happened yeah i don't know what

1721
01:15:01,110 --> 01:14:57,920
happens

1722
01:15:04,229 --> 01:15:01,120
next so then

1723
01:15:05,750 --> 01:15:04,239
so we have this conversation

1724
01:15:07,830 --> 01:15:05,760
and that's when she's telling me your

1725
01:15:11,350 --> 01:15:07,840
background with the et stuff

1726
01:15:12,310 --> 01:15:11,360
and then i say as like kind of a

1727
01:15:14,550 --> 01:15:12,320
throwaway

1728
01:15:16,550 --> 01:15:14,560
like the reading's over now and and

1729
01:15:20,149 --> 01:15:16,560
we're sitting at a table

1730
01:15:22,550 --> 01:15:20,159
and i say by the way

1731
01:15:24,229 --> 01:15:22,560
these two little things were in my house

1732
01:15:28,070 --> 01:15:24,239
and they know you

1733
01:15:28,709 --> 01:15:28,080
and she froze and i kind of described

1734
01:15:32,149 --> 01:15:28,719
them

1735
01:15:35,910 --> 01:15:32,159
and she knew exactly who they were

1736
01:15:38,709 --> 01:15:35,920
she knew that thing too right and so

1737
01:15:40,550 --> 01:15:38,719
we were both just like can we just work

1738
01:15:42,950 --> 01:15:40,560
together a little more because we were

1739
01:15:45,110 --> 01:15:42,960
both in this thing of like

1740
01:15:47,030 --> 01:15:45,120
of like how do you know and how do you

1741
01:15:51,350 --> 01:15:47,040
know like we were sinking on some

1742
01:15:54,950 --> 01:15:51,360
weird level and she's the one that said

1743
01:15:56,950 --> 01:15:54,960
oh my next okay here's an important part

1744
01:15:58,790 --> 01:15:56,960
in that conversation out of nowhere

1745
01:16:02,070 --> 01:15:58,800
here's another thing i threw out

1746
01:16:03,830 --> 01:16:02,080
i said i need a shaman and she says

1747
01:16:06,149 --> 01:16:03,840
i know a really good one and she can

1748
01:16:06,709 --> 01:16:06,159
help you and i was like oh my god there

1749
01:16:09,830 --> 01:16:06,719
it is

1750
01:16:12,390 --> 01:16:09,840
there's my lady right right right

1751
01:16:13,350 --> 01:16:12,400
she so now we're kind of working

1752
01:16:15,430 --> 01:16:13,360
together

1753
01:16:16,630 --> 01:16:15,440
so now the synchronicities are gonna

1754
01:16:21,510 --> 01:16:16,640
fall like dominoes

1755
01:16:24,550 --> 01:16:21,520
okay strap in here we go she

1756
01:16:25,669 --> 01:16:24,560
says to me i know of someone that does

1757
01:16:27,910 --> 01:16:25,679
hypnotherapy

1758
01:16:29,910 --> 01:16:27,920
and i kind of want to go under hypnosis

1759
01:16:33,030 --> 01:16:29,920
to to work on my

1760
01:16:34,550 --> 01:16:33,040
abduction stuff and her name is yvonne

1761
01:16:37,030 --> 01:16:34,560
smith

1762
01:16:38,470 --> 01:16:37,040
and my first the first thing out of my

1763
01:16:40,310 --> 01:16:38,480
mouth without thinking is

1764
01:16:41,669 --> 01:16:40,320
this lady does hypnotherapy for

1765
01:16:44,550 --> 01:16:41,679
abductees

1766
01:16:46,229 --> 01:16:44,560
and she goes yeah and i go dude what's

1767
01:16:48,070 --> 01:16:46,239
in that office like does she know how to

1768
01:16:50,229 --> 01:16:48,080
clear a room like energetically

1769
01:16:52,310 --> 01:16:50,239
because like i can only imagine the

1770
01:16:54,950 --> 01:16:52,320
creepy stuff that might be like

1771
01:16:56,950 --> 01:16:54,960
lingering in that lady's office right

1772
01:17:00,310 --> 01:16:56,960
and

1773
01:17:02,470 --> 01:17:00,320
so it was with that client like i wanted

1774
01:17:04,950 --> 01:17:02,480
to go to see what was in the office

1775
01:17:06,070 --> 01:17:04,960
the client wanted to go and so the

1776
01:17:08,790 --> 01:17:06,080
client and i

1777
01:17:09,590 --> 01:17:08,800
had her hypnotherapy session together

1778
01:17:13,910 --> 01:17:09,600
with yvonne

1779
01:17:15,830 --> 01:17:13,920
that's how i met yvonne and then

1780
01:17:17,910 --> 01:17:15,840
weird things happen in that room but

1781
01:17:21,350 --> 01:17:17,920
i'll keep that private because that's

1782
01:17:23,270 --> 01:17:21,360
that's something else so that's how i

1783
01:17:27,350 --> 01:17:23,280
met her

1784
01:17:32,149 --> 01:17:27,360
then i have the session

1785
01:17:34,229 --> 01:17:32,159
with um eagle woman

1786
01:17:36,310 --> 01:17:34,239
a month later so now this is february

1787
01:17:39,590 --> 01:17:36,320
2016.

1788
01:17:42,630 --> 01:17:39,600
and i am told by my

1789
01:17:43,590 --> 01:17:42,640
intuitive guides you need to see this

1790
01:17:45,830 --> 01:17:43,600
shaman

1791
01:17:47,430 --> 01:17:45,840
and now this client has given me the

1792
01:17:50,390 --> 01:17:47,440
name of this shaman

1793
01:17:51,990 --> 01:17:50,400
and i don't know what's going on but i

1794
01:17:54,709 --> 01:17:52,000
booked this session

1795
01:17:55,430 --> 01:17:54,719
and i'm thinking uh i'm pretty

1796
01:17:57,350 --> 01:17:55,440
embarrassed

1797
01:17:58,470 --> 01:17:57,360
now because i just booked this session

1798
01:18:01,030 --> 01:17:58,480
with this shaman

1799
01:18:02,149 --> 01:18:01,040
and i have no idea what i'm supposed to

1800
01:18:04,709 --> 01:18:02,159
do

1801
01:18:05,350 --> 01:18:04,719
and so i need guidance and i'm throwing

1802
01:18:07,990 --> 01:18:05,360
that out

1803
01:18:10,830 --> 01:18:08,000
to my guides to the universe hello i'm

1804
01:18:15,189 --> 01:18:10,840
doing what you asked me to do

1805
01:18:18,470 --> 01:18:15,199
and i have a particular guide

1806
01:18:21,510 --> 01:18:18,480
um that i met in sedona

1807
01:18:24,709 --> 01:18:21,520
that is this hopi girl who is like

1808
01:18:27,510 --> 01:18:24,719
19 and she has a lot of attitude she

1809
01:18:29,990 --> 01:18:27,520
comes back to me and she says

1810
01:18:32,229 --> 01:18:30,000
tell the shaman you need your name tell

1811
01:18:34,390 --> 01:18:32,239
her it's time to get your name

1812
01:18:36,709 --> 01:18:34,400
and i'm like okay what is that i don't

1813
01:18:39,030 --> 01:18:36,719
know what that is yeah what is that

1814
01:18:39,990 --> 01:18:39,040
tell her you need your name it's time

1815
01:18:42,630 --> 01:18:40,000
and of course this

1816
01:18:45,030 --> 01:18:42,640
this particular spirit is very kind of

1817
01:18:47,590 --> 01:18:45,040
ornery and has a lot of like

1818
01:18:49,350 --> 01:18:47,600
a lot of teen attitude let me tell you

1819
01:18:51,110 --> 01:18:49,360
and so she's just like yeah

1820
01:18:53,830 --> 01:18:51,120
you should have had it by now and so i'm

1821
01:18:54,709 --> 01:18:53,840
getting i get scolded by this particular

1822
01:18:57,669 --> 01:18:54,719
spirit

1823
01:18:59,030 --> 01:18:57,679
every time i have this session with

1824
01:19:00,790 --> 01:18:59,040
eagle woman

1825
01:19:02,709 --> 01:19:00,800
she says something very interesting to

1826
01:19:04,790 --> 01:19:02,719
me which is

1827
01:19:06,229 --> 01:19:04,800
that and i'll never forget this and i do

1828
01:19:10,229 --> 01:19:06,239
this to this day

1829
01:19:11,110 --> 01:19:10,239
she says there are light workers in the

1830
01:19:13,430 --> 01:19:11,120
world

1831
01:19:14,149 --> 01:19:13,440
and they are wonderful and there is a

1832
01:19:17,430 --> 01:19:14,159
wonderful

1833
01:19:20,790 --> 01:19:17,440
place for light workers in this world

1834
01:19:21,750 --> 01:19:20,800
but we are shaman we go into the dark

1835
01:19:23,669 --> 01:19:21,760
places

1836
01:19:25,510 --> 01:19:23,679
we have to keep the light in our heart

1837
01:19:26,390 --> 01:19:25,520
because we have to go into the dark

1838
01:19:30,310 --> 01:19:26,400
places

1839
01:19:32,229 --> 01:19:30,320
and pull those out that need help

1840
01:19:34,310 --> 01:19:32,239
and immediately jimmy and you're going

1841
01:19:37,030 --> 01:19:34,320
to understand this

1842
01:19:38,630 --> 01:19:37,040
i go back to the punk rock days right

1843
01:19:39,110 --> 01:19:38,640
which i you know we can talk about that

1844
01:19:41,430 --> 01:19:39,120
but

1845
01:19:42,310 --> 01:19:41,440
anyway i go back to the punk rock days

1846
01:19:45,750 --> 01:19:42,320
of

1847
01:19:47,350 --> 01:19:45,760
back in the day you jumped in the pit

1848
01:19:49,030 --> 01:19:47,360
we didn't call it a mosh pit that

1849
01:19:51,350 --> 01:19:49,040
happened with grunge people that was a

1850
01:19:54,149 --> 01:19:51,360
90s thing back in the 80s you just you

1851
01:19:56,790 --> 01:19:54,159
jumped in the pit you got in the pit

1852
01:19:57,270 --> 01:19:56,800
and there's this moment in the pit where

1853
01:19:59,910 --> 01:19:57,280
there's

1854
01:20:00,709 --> 01:19:59,920
chaos all around you and people are

1855
01:20:02,550 --> 01:20:00,719
falling over

1856
01:20:04,550 --> 01:20:02,560
they're just stage diving and falling

1857
01:20:07,750 --> 01:20:04,560
over you and everything is

1858
01:20:11,270 --> 01:20:07,760
sheer like adrenaline

1859
01:20:14,149 --> 01:20:11,280
angst chaos yet you're

1860
01:20:14,790 --> 01:20:14,159
flowing in it and there's something

1861
01:20:18,709 --> 01:20:14,800
really

1862
01:20:22,390 --> 01:20:18,719
beautiful about being in chaos but

1863
01:20:25,750 --> 01:20:22,400
flowing with this with these people

1864
01:20:29,110 --> 01:20:25,760
because the chaos is not a is not at

1865
01:20:32,149 --> 01:20:29,120
you it's just with you right

1866
01:20:34,310 --> 01:20:32,159
and that's what i understood

1867
01:20:35,990 --> 01:20:34,320
when she told me about shamanism and i

1868
01:20:38,470 --> 01:20:36,000
was like i know this

1869
01:20:39,030 --> 01:20:38,480
this this is punk rock shamanism then to

1870
01:20:43,189 --> 01:20:39,040
me

1871
01:20:46,470 --> 01:20:43,199
because i know this already and

1872
01:20:49,669 --> 01:20:46,480
so i told her oh

1873
01:20:52,070 --> 01:20:49,679
um i need a name and she says

1874
01:20:53,669 --> 01:20:52,080
i'll petition for your name and i said

1875
01:20:56,709 --> 01:20:53,679
okay thanks

1876
01:20:58,790 --> 01:20:56,719
and then after the session i'm putting

1877
01:21:00,870 --> 01:20:58,800
my shoes on and you know she's kind of

1878
01:21:01,830 --> 01:21:00,880
inside this curtain and the apprentice

1879
01:21:03,189 --> 01:21:01,840
is on the outside

1880
01:21:05,350 --> 01:21:03,199
like in this lobby and i'm with the

1881
01:21:07,669 --> 01:21:05,360
apprentice and she's bringing me water

1882
01:21:08,790 --> 01:21:07,679
and the shaman says oh by the way don't

1883
01:21:09,830 --> 01:21:08,800
forget i'm going to petition for your

1884
01:21:11,750 --> 01:21:09,840
name

1885
01:21:13,270 --> 01:21:11,760
and the apprentice hears this and she

1886
01:21:14,870 --> 01:21:13,280
mouths to me

1887
01:21:16,629 --> 01:21:14,880
did she say she's gonna print she's

1888
01:21:17,510 --> 01:21:16,639
gonna petition for your name and i said

1889
01:21:19,270 --> 01:21:17,520
yeah

1890
01:21:20,870 --> 01:21:19,280
what does that mean and she goes who are

1891
01:21:22,629 --> 01:21:20,880
you i said i'm nobody

1892
01:21:25,189 --> 01:21:22,639
what does that mean and then she kind of

1893
01:21:26,470 --> 01:21:25,199
like nudged me like come outside right

1894
01:21:28,229 --> 01:21:26,480
and she goes she's gonna petition for

1895
01:21:30,470 --> 01:21:28,239
your name and i said yeah

1896
01:21:32,310 --> 01:21:30,480
can you tell me anything about that and

1897
01:21:33,910 --> 01:21:32,320
she goes well she's going to send out

1898
01:21:34,629 --> 01:21:33,920
prayers and petition for your name and

1899
01:21:37,510 --> 01:21:34,639
then

1900
01:21:38,310 --> 01:21:37,520
you're going to get called one of these

1901
01:21:39,669 --> 01:21:38,320
days

1902
01:21:41,590 --> 01:21:39,679
and you're going to have a ceremony and

1903
01:21:45,030 --> 01:21:41,600
they're going to give you your name

1904
01:21:47,830 --> 01:21:45,040
and i'm like great i still don't have

1905
01:21:50,950 --> 01:21:47,840
any idea what's going on because now i'm

1906
01:21:54,070 --> 01:21:50,960
getting deep into this ufo thing

1907
01:21:56,070 --> 01:21:54,080
and so here's what i do

1908
01:21:57,590 --> 01:21:56,080
i see that contact in the desert is

1909
01:21:59,430 --> 01:21:57,600
gonna be in joshua tree

1910
01:22:00,950 --> 01:21:59,440
i used to go hiking in joshua tree i

1911
01:22:01,510 --> 01:22:00,960
missed joshua tree i'm like you know

1912
01:22:02,709 --> 01:22:01,520
what

1913
01:22:04,629 --> 01:22:02,719
i'm gonna go to this contact in the

1914
01:22:07,750 --> 01:22:04,639
desert thing

1915
01:22:11,910 --> 01:22:07,760
i buy a ticket i book a hotel

1916
01:22:16,709 --> 01:22:15,110
like plan this trip solo trip on a

1917
01:22:17,110 --> 01:22:16,719
weekend for contact in the desert and

1918
01:22:19,030 --> 01:22:17,120
then

1919
01:22:20,950 --> 01:22:19,040
of course you know like the days go by

1920
01:22:23,750 --> 01:22:20,960
and i'm like uh

1921
01:22:25,669 --> 01:22:23,760
i don't know any of these speakers

1922
01:22:27,590 --> 01:22:25,679
contact in the desert like i don't know

1923
01:22:28,790 --> 01:22:27,600
what i'm doing i'm just exploring this

1924
01:22:33,030 --> 01:22:28,800
ufo world like

1925
01:22:36,229 --> 01:22:33,040
full-on and so i see a name

1926
01:22:36,950 --> 01:22:36,239
and it's linda moulton howe on the on

1927
01:22:38,950 --> 01:22:36,960
the um

1928
01:22:40,149 --> 01:22:38,960
flyer and i guess it catches me because

1929
01:22:43,430 --> 01:22:40,159
it's the three name

1930
01:22:47,350 --> 01:22:43,440
you know um name and

1931
01:22:49,030 --> 01:22:47,360
i go on youtube and

1932
01:22:51,110 --> 01:22:49,040
there's a fade to black with linda

1933
01:22:52,550 --> 01:22:51,120
moulton howe like you had just

1934
01:22:55,189 --> 01:22:52,560
interviewed her

1935
01:22:56,629 --> 01:22:55,199
and so i go oh okay so this is good this

1936
01:22:57,910 --> 01:22:56,639
is some sort of radio interview with

1937
01:22:59,750 --> 01:22:57,920
linda moulton how

1938
01:23:01,510 --> 01:22:59,760
i'm going to listen to this i put it on

1939
01:23:03,030 --> 01:23:01,520
and i'm not kidding jimmy

1940
01:23:05,830 --> 01:23:03,040
she's talking about the half cat

1941
01:23:06,229 --> 01:23:05,840
phenomenon i remember i remember that

1942
01:23:08,149 --> 01:23:06,239
show

1943
01:23:09,750 --> 01:23:08,159
you've never told me this by the way

1944
01:23:10,390 --> 01:23:09,760
this is the first time i'm hearing about

1945
01:23:13,669 --> 01:23:10,400
this

1946
01:23:16,229 --> 01:23:13,679
um but yeah that half cat show uh

1947
01:23:17,830 --> 01:23:16,239
not only freaked me out but the audience

1948
01:23:20,149 --> 01:23:17,840
too as well

1949
01:23:21,590 --> 01:23:20,159
and and i don't know about th this is

1950
01:23:24,709 --> 01:23:21,600
great this is the first time i

1951
01:23:25,830 --> 01:23:24,719
i'm hearing this okay so it's the linda

1952
01:23:29,270 --> 01:23:25,840
moulton howe

1953
01:23:32,229 --> 01:23:29,280
half cat show half cat show

1954
01:23:33,030 --> 01:23:32,239
i'm yelling at you and the radio and

1955
01:23:35,270 --> 01:23:33,040
linda

1956
01:23:37,430 --> 01:23:35,280
and she's saying you know and they have

1957
01:23:39,110 --> 01:23:37,440
they have been sightings in costa me

1958
01:23:40,629 --> 01:23:39,120
costa mesa and orange county and i'm

1959
01:23:43,270 --> 01:23:40,639
going in alhambra

1960
01:23:44,709 --> 01:23:43,280
in 85 and i've seen it and i know and

1961
01:23:48,390 --> 01:23:44,719
she's talking about

1962
01:23:50,149 --> 01:23:48,400
everything i've seen and i am just

1963
01:23:53,910 --> 01:23:50,159
thinking

1964
01:23:54,709 --> 01:23:53,920
holy crap that's part of this ufo thing

1965
01:24:02,149 --> 01:23:54,719
like i

1966
01:24:05,910 --> 01:24:02,159
so now and and that's okay

1967
01:24:07,990 --> 01:24:05,920
i get to i get to contact in the desert

1968
01:24:09,510 --> 01:24:08,000
you the those that have been there you

1969
01:24:10,870 --> 01:24:09,520
know you go in the beginning and you do

1970
01:24:12,229 --> 01:24:10,880
that little registration thing and you

1971
01:24:13,750 --> 01:24:12,239
get your packet and you get your

1972
01:24:16,709 --> 01:24:13,760
wristband

1973
01:24:18,149 --> 01:24:16,719
i do that okay here i am i still have no

1974
01:24:20,870 --> 01:24:18,159
idea what i'm gonna do

1975
01:24:21,590 --> 01:24:20,880
i take a like three steps forward and

1976
01:24:23,990 --> 01:24:21,600
who's like

1977
01:24:26,390 --> 01:24:24,000
like a black cat crossing my path

1978
01:24:27,030 --> 01:24:26,400
there's jimmy cherks she walks right by

1979
01:24:29,110 --> 01:24:27,040
me

1980
01:24:30,070 --> 01:24:29,120
oh really just like walk you walked

1981
01:24:33,669 --> 01:24:30,080
right in front of me

1982
01:24:35,669 --> 01:24:33,679
okay i go and i'm just thinking

1983
01:24:36,870 --> 01:24:35,679
oh i think i know that guy i think

1984
01:24:40,070 --> 01:24:36,880
that's the radio guy

1985
01:24:41,590 --> 01:24:40,080
right and so that's and so i go in i

1986
01:24:45,030 --> 01:24:41,600
listen to some lectures

1987
01:24:48,310 --> 01:24:45,040
um and

1988
01:24:50,709 --> 01:24:48,320
i see oh they have the like an

1989
01:24:54,070 --> 01:24:50,719
experiencer cafe type thing

1990
01:24:57,990 --> 01:24:54,080
i remember that yes yes at lunch

1991
01:25:01,830 --> 01:24:58,000
and so i told my story

1992
01:25:03,990 --> 01:25:01,840
of how i became a medium

1993
01:25:06,470 --> 01:25:04,000
and basically what got me to contact in

1994
01:25:09,510 --> 01:25:06,480
the desert in the story of this client

1995
01:25:13,270 --> 01:25:09,520
and alan steinfeld was

1996
01:25:14,870 --> 01:25:13,280
listening in and alan says

1997
01:25:16,149 --> 01:25:14,880
oh my god you have to tell whitley you

1998
01:25:16,550 --> 01:25:16,159
have to tell whitley this story he's

1999
01:25:18,390 --> 01:25:16,560
gonna

2000
01:25:21,750 --> 01:25:18,400
he needs to hear this story you should

2001
01:25:24,790 --> 01:25:21,760
tell linda too and that and so

2002
01:25:25,430 --> 01:25:24,800
um fast forward like the next oh that

2003
01:25:27,750 --> 01:25:25,440
night

2004
01:25:29,350 --> 01:25:27,760
so i said okay sure whatever i exchanged

2005
01:25:32,229 --> 01:25:29,360
numbers with alan and i

2006
01:25:34,310 --> 01:25:32,239
he's he wants to interview me for new

2007
01:25:37,669 --> 01:25:34,320
realities okay great

2008
01:25:40,790 --> 01:25:37,679
so that night i'm walking what was that

2009
01:25:42,870 --> 01:25:40,800
big arena that had um that inside where

2010
01:25:44,070 --> 01:25:42,880
they had the cocktail thing at night you

2011
01:25:47,350 --> 01:25:44,080
know the ones yeah the dome

2012
01:25:50,310 --> 01:25:47,360
yeah the dome yes the dome okay

2013
01:25:51,910 --> 01:25:50,320
so it's nighttime i'm walking around the

2014
01:25:53,590 --> 01:25:51,920
dome everyone's in the dome having that

2015
01:25:55,189 --> 01:25:53,600
party but i don't have a ticket for that

2016
01:25:58,550 --> 01:25:55,199
dome party thing

2017
01:26:00,790 --> 01:25:58,560
i walk around and outside the dome

2018
01:26:02,070 --> 01:26:00,800
in the back in a chair sitting by

2019
01:26:06,550 --> 01:26:02,080
herself eating

2020
01:26:10,390 --> 01:26:06,560
is linda moulton howe and i say

2021
01:26:12,470 --> 01:26:10,400
oh hi i've seen half cats

2022
01:26:13,510 --> 01:26:12,480
and i'm my dad's in it was abducted by

2023
01:26:15,669 --> 01:26:13,520
um like

2024
01:26:18,149 --> 01:26:15,679
i just kind of pour my heart out to

2025
01:26:20,470 --> 01:26:18,159
linda and she's like

2026
01:26:22,950 --> 01:26:20,480
i mean without skipping a beat she's in

2027
01:26:25,430 --> 01:26:22,960
full reporter mode tell me what you saw

2028
01:26:27,750 --> 01:26:25,440
did your father draw any pictures of the

2029
01:26:29,990 --> 01:26:27,760
hieroglyphs and like around the border

2030
01:26:31,270 --> 01:26:30,000
how did it look tell me about the craft

2031
01:26:33,030 --> 01:26:31,280
what did they do to him how did like

2032
01:26:33,830 --> 01:26:33,040
she's just like boom boom boom and i'm

2033
01:26:36,149 --> 01:26:33,840
loving this

2034
01:26:37,270 --> 01:26:36,159
because she is not talk looking at me

2035
01:26:40,070 --> 01:26:37,280
like i'm crazy

2036
01:26:42,149 --> 01:26:40,080
she's not like she has no she doesn't

2037
01:26:44,870 --> 01:26:42,159
care about her taco anymore whatever

2038
01:26:47,110 --> 01:26:44,880
she was eating she's just fully engaged

2039
01:26:50,070 --> 01:26:47,120
in this total stranger

2040
01:26:52,149 --> 01:26:50,080
that has had weird experiences and for

2041
01:26:55,590 --> 01:26:52,159
that i will always love linda

2042
01:26:58,070 --> 01:26:55,600
and i tell her that story and then she

2043
01:26:59,990 --> 01:26:58,080
says i'd like to talk to you more

2044
01:27:01,590 --> 01:27:00,000
that doesn't actually happen but we say

2045
01:27:03,430 --> 01:27:01,600
yes okay i'm planning this

2046
01:27:04,709 --> 01:27:03,440
because again i got no idea what i'm

2047
01:27:08,310 --> 01:27:04,719
doing

2048
01:27:11,350 --> 01:27:08,320
the next day in a golf cart

2049
01:27:14,470 --> 01:27:11,360
rolls up alan steinfeld with

2050
01:27:16,149 --> 01:27:14,480
linda bolton hal and he says jump in

2051
01:27:18,310 --> 01:27:16,159
we're going over to the gaia studios i'm

2052
01:27:21,990 --> 01:27:18,320
going to introduce you to whitley

2053
01:27:25,030 --> 01:27:22,000
and i say okay and now

2054
01:27:25,910 --> 01:27:25,040
from nowhere jimmy i find myself in a

2055
01:27:28,229 --> 01:27:25,920
golf cart

2056
01:27:29,830 --> 01:27:28,239
with with alan steinfeld and linda

2057
01:27:33,030 --> 01:27:29,840
wolden how we're gonna go meet

2058
01:27:34,950 --> 01:27:33,040
um whitley i did meet whitley

2059
01:27:36,709 --> 01:27:34,960
but they were recording and willie did

2060
01:27:39,189 --> 01:27:36,719
this thing where he was just like

2061
01:27:40,070 --> 01:27:39,199
don't tell me well we'll maybe we can do

2062
01:27:41,750 --> 01:27:40,080
it on the show

2063
01:27:43,830 --> 01:27:41,760
i want it to be fresh i don't i don't

2064
01:27:45,990 --> 01:27:43,840
want to know anything um

2065
01:27:47,590 --> 01:27:46,000
and to this day i have not told whitley

2066
01:27:49,270 --> 01:27:47,600
that story even though we've been to

2067
01:27:49,590 --> 01:27:49,280
like pine ridge together and done all

2068
01:27:52,310 --> 01:27:49,600
these

2069
01:27:53,750 --> 01:27:52,320
right right right right whitley still

2070
01:27:58,149 --> 01:27:53,760
doesn't know that

2071
01:28:01,510 --> 01:27:58,159
um the synchronicities just kept like

2072
01:28:04,390 --> 01:28:01,520
rolling after that

2073
01:28:06,310 --> 01:28:04,400
um i remember whitley was recording in

2074
01:28:08,950 --> 01:28:06,320
that tent

2075
01:28:10,070 --> 01:28:08,960
yeah yeah yeah right next to the uh the

2076
01:28:13,110 --> 01:28:10,080
amphitheater i

2077
01:28:14,470 --> 01:28:13,120
i was there for a minute and and you and

2078
01:28:17,669 --> 01:28:14,480
i did not meet

2079
01:28:20,870 --> 01:28:17,679
right paths had had crossed right then

2080
01:28:21,430 --> 01:28:20,880
yeah very very interesting uh here's the

2081
01:28:23,910 --> 01:28:21,440
funny thing

2082
01:28:24,470 --> 01:28:23,920
oh wait let let me add this one part

2083
01:28:26,470 --> 01:28:24,480
sure

2084
01:28:28,790 --> 01:28:26,480
because this is this is another thing

2085
01:28:30,870 --> 01:28:28,800
you don't know you were in

2086
01:28:32,310 --> 01:28:30,880
what's that um behind the dome there was

2087
01:28:33,910 --> 01:28:32,320
the brick the yellow brick building

2088
01:28:37,189 --> 01:28:33,920
where you did the show all the time

2089
01:28:38,950 --> 01:28:37,199
yes okay so you're in that room and fade

2090
01:28:41,830 --> 01:28:38,960
to black is live

2091
01:28:42,790 --> 01:28:41,840
i'm outside that room and i meet two

2092
01:28:44,629 --> 01:28:42,800
ladies

2093
01:28:46,229 --> 01:28:44,639
and we're having this great conversation

2094
01:28:50,310 --> 01:28:46,239
and we become friends

2095
01:28:53,590 --> 01:28:50,320
and those two ladies are rita and nancy

2096
01:28:56,310 --> 01:28:53,600
so i met rita and nancy having

2097
01:28:58,229 --> 01:28:56,320
no idea that you were at all connected

2098
01:28:59,990 --> 01:28:58,239
with them

2099
01:29:01,270 --> 01:29:00,000
and it took a long time before i was

2100
01:29:03,830 --> 01:29:01,280
like oh

2101
01:29:05,350 --> 01:29:03,840
rita works rita does something with fade

2102
01:29:05,910 --> 01:29:05,360
to black i was like oh what do you do

2103
01:29:13,030 --> 01:29:05,920
like

2104
01:29:15,830 --> 01:29:13,040
the uh the the things that

2105
01:29:16,870 --> 01:29:15,840
happened uh and continue to happen after

2106
01:29:19,590 --> 01:29:16,880
this

2107
01:29:21,350 --> 01:29:19,600
um are absolutely mind-blowing i want

2108
01:29:22,870 --> 01:29:21,360
everybody to stay right there we need to

2109
01:29:24,950 --> 01:29:22,880
take a quick break

2110
01:29:26,070 --> 01:29:24,960
and uh when we come back we're going to

2111
01:29:29,030 --> 01:29:26,080
continue

2112
01:29:30,550 --> 01:29:29,040
the the other parts of this uh for me

2113
01:29:33,830 --> 01:29:30,560
lucinda

2114
01:29:37,110 --> 01:29:33,840
is that you have an open mind

2115
01:29:39,270 --> 01:29:37,120
you um are doing things

2116
01:29:40,629 --> 01:29:39,280
to help others and and you're moving

2117
01:29:43,030 --> 01:29:40,639
things forward

2118
01:29:45,270 --> 01:29:43,040
but things just happen to get stranger

2119
01:29:51,110 --> 01:29:45,280
and stranger

2120
01:29:54,870 --> 01:29:53,669
i asked for it though yeah yeah you did

2121
01:29:56,870 --> 01:29:54,880
i'm cool with it yeah

2122
01:29:58,470 --> 01:29:56,880
yeah you did let's take our break right

2123
01:30:01,510 --> 01:29:58,480
here this is fade to black i

2124
01:30:05,669 --> 01:30:01,520
am your host jimmy church

2125
01:30:07,110 --> 01:30:05,679
tonight lucinda morrell first time guest

2126
01:30:09,110 --> 01:30:07,120
this is fade to black i'm your host

2127
01:30:11,110 --> 01:30:09,120
jimmy church on the game changer network

2128
01:30:12,629 --> 01:30:11,120
and kgra

2129
01:30:22,430 --> 01:30:12,639
the planet we'll be right back after

2130
01:30:22,440 --> 01:30:29,350
[Music]

2131
01:30:35,590 --> 01:30:32,550
way out here we listen to jimmy church

2132
01:30:37,510 --> 01:30:35,600
you're listening to fade to black

2133
01:30:38,629 --> 01:30:37,520
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2134
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2135
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2136
01:31:01,590 --> 01:30:59,590
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2137
01:31:03,590 --> 01:31:01,600
not of course you do

2138
01:31:06,669 --> 01:31:03,600
this is jimmy church of fade to black

2139
01:31:08,709 --> 01:31:06,679
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2140
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2141
01:31:12,470 --> 01:31:10,639
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2142
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2143
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headed do you wonder about the food

2144
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2145
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2146
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2147
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2148
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you can do today

2149
01:31:30,390 --> 01:31:28,080
is to stockpile emergency food water

2150
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2151
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2152
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2157
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2158
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2161
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2180
01:32:49,950 --> 01:32:45,530
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2181
01:32:49,960 --> 01:32:53,669
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2182
01:33:00,470 --> 01:32:55,669
you are listening to fate to black with

2183
01:33:04,070 --> 01:33:03,030
hi i'm reese vance you're listening to

2184
01:33:07,189 --> 01:33:04,080
jimmy church

2185
01:33:08,550 --> 01:33:07,199
this is revolution the revolution will

2186
01:33:20,830 --> 01:33:08,560
not be televised

2187
01:33:20,840 --> 01:33:24,180
ciao

2188
01:33:55,590 --> 01:33:34,830
[Music]

2189
01:33:58,790 --> 01:33:57,430
welcome back fade to black i am your

2190
01:34:00,629 --> 01:33:58,800
host jimmy church our guest tonight

2191
01:34:02,629 --> 01:34:00,639
lucinda morrell i want to remind

2192
01:34:04,390 --> 01:34:02,639
everybody we got a slight programming

2193
01:34:06,709 --> 01:34:04,400
change for tomorrow

2194
01:34:07,430 --> 01:34:06,719
kathleen martin is with us tomorrow

2195
01:34:14,070 --> 01:34:07,440
night

2196
01:34:14,790 --> 01:34:14,080
we did have a snafu remember uh we've

2197
01:34:17,030 --> 01:34:14,800
just built

2198
01:34:19,270 --> 01:34:17,040
a new studio we're going through some

2199
01:34:21,830 --> 01:34:19,280
growing pains and some other stuff

2200
01:34:23,590 --> 01:34:21,840
and last night uh through all of that

2201
01:34:26,229 --> 01:34:23,600
with other things that were going on

2202
01:34:27,669 --> 01:34:26,239
we lost the internet but kathleen is

2203
01:34:29,510 --> 01:34:27,679
available tomorrow night

2204
01:34:31,990 --> 01:34:29,520
this is the other thing kathleen's got

2205
01:34:35,110 --> 01:34:32,000
two interviews she's doing tomorrow

2206
01:34:36,709 --> 01:34:35,120
and uh two shows and ours is first and

2207
01:34:37,030 --> 01:34:36,719
then she's got a late night show after

2208
01:34:39,590 --> 01:34:37,040
that

2209
01:34:41,189 --> 01:34:39,600
and for her to uh make those

2210
01:34:43,750 --> 01:34:41,199
arrangements and come back to us

2211
01:34:44,790 --> 01:34:43,760
uh means everything so tomorrow night

2212
01:34:47,430 --> 01:34:44,800
kathleen

2213
01:34:49,270 --> 01:34:47,440
martin tonight lucinda morrell and

2214
01:34:50,870 --> 01:34:49,280
before i get back to lucinda

2215
01:34:52,790 --> 01:34:50,880
i want to talk to you about virtual

2216
01:34:55,590 --> 01:34:52,800
shield vpn

2217
01:34:56,629 --> 01:34:55,600
and right now virtual shield we've got a

2218
01:34:58,950 --> 01:34:56,639
new bunker

2219
01:35:00,709 --> 01:34:58,960
we're in an undisclosed private location

2220
01:35:03,270 --> 01:35:00,719
we're totally secure

2221
01:35:03,910 --> 01:35:03,280
and part of that security is virtual

2222
01:35:07,189 --> 01:35:03,920
shield

2223
01:35:10,310 --> 01:35:07,199
vpn and when we moved the bunker

2224
01:35:13,510 --> 01:35:10,320
everybody and got the new computers

2225
01:35:16,709 --> 01:35:13,520
in and and fired everything up

2226
01:35:18,870 --> 01:35:16,719
they all said hey you've got a different

2227
01:35:20,550 --> 01:35:18,880
location it was incredible to see the

2228
01:35:23,430 --> 01:35:20,560
automation come in

2229
01:35:25,590 --> 01:35:23,440
and for me to go back into lockdown with

2230
01:35:27,910 --> 01:35:25,600
a virtual shield vpn

2231
01:35:29,270 --> 01:35:27,920
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our guest tonight is lucinda morrell now

2251
01:36:11,830 --> 01:36:08,400
lucinda

2252
01:36:14,310 --> 01:36:11,840
going back uh to all of these strange

2253
01:36:15,470 --> 01:36:14,320
synchronicities that are flying about

2254
01:36:19,030 --> 01:36:15,480
you back in

2255
01:36:21,669 --> 01:36:19,040
2016 now um

2256
01:36:24,229 --> 01:36:21,679
there's another thing that happens you

2257
01:36:25,669 --> 01:36:24,239
become part of the ufo community

2258
01:36:28,070 --> 01:36:25,679
right you're making friends you're

2259
01:36:31,990 --> 01:36:28,080
meeting people for the first time

2260
01:36:35,830 --> 01:36:32,000
and you you start to find out

2261
01:36:37,910 --> 01:36:35,840
that your experiences are not unique

2262
01:36:39,510 --> 01:36:37,920
are they and that you've got friends out

2263
01:36:42,390 --> 01:36:39,520
there and you can share

2264
01:36:42,790 --> 01:36:42,400
your experiences with them but that

2265
01:36:53,109 --> 01:36:42,800
there

2266
01:36:54,310 --> 01:36:53,119
at the time you know when i found out i

2267
01:36:56,229 --> 01:36:54,320
was a medium i

2268
01:36:58,310 --> 01:36:56,239
i went to what i call psychic school

2269
01:37:00,149 --> 01:36:58,320
which is just my fun name for it

2270
01:37:01,669 --> 01:37:00,159
so when i started tapping into this

2271
01:37:04,790 --> 01:37:01,679
shamanic thing

2272
01:37:06,629 --> 01:37:04,800
i said i need to go to shaman school and

2273
01:37:10,390 --> 01:37:06,639
now i know

2274
01:37:13,830 --> 01:37:10,400
that i needed those shamanic teachings

2275
01:37:16,870 --> 01:37:13,840
to navigate this

2276
01:37:20,790 --> 01:37:16,880
or my role or place

2277
01:37:24,390 --> 01:37:20,800
in this ufo field they go together

2278
01:37:28,709 --> 01:37:24,400
so it's again

2279
01:37:31,109 --> 01:37:28,719
here's what i know you

2280
01:37:32,950 --> 01:37:31,119
every problem is an invitation

2281
01:37:34,870 --> 01:37:32,960
everything that triggers you

2282
01:37:36,070 --> 01:37:34,880
is an invitation everything that makes

2283
01:37:37,830 --> 01:37:36,080
you mad or angry

2284
01:37:39,990 --> 01:37:37,840
or sad or anything with a heightened

2285
01:37:41,430 --> 01:37:40,000
emotion is just a heightened energetic

2286
01:37:44,790 --> 01:37:41,440
vibration

2287
01:37:46,229 --> 01:37:44,800
that is an invitation and you are never

2288
01:37:49,669 --> 01:37:46,239
given the invitation

2289
01:37:52,229 --> 01:37:49,679
without also being given the tools

2290
01:37:53,109 --> 01:37:52,239
to make you better and learn and be

2291
01:37:55,030 --> 01:37:53,119
amazing

2292
01:37:56,310 --> 01:37:55,040
from that invitation you're always going

2293
01:37:59,270 --> 01:37:56,320
to win

2294
01:38:00,950 --> 01:37:59,280
this life is set up for you to succeed

2295
01:38:02,709 --> 01:38:00,960
you just got to know that

2296
01:38:04,310 --> 01:38:02,719
and put those puzzle pieces together

2297
01:38:07,990 --> 01:38:04,320
right so

2298
01:38:11,109 --> 01:38:08,000
so as i'm kind of understanding

2299
01:38:14,310 --> 01:38:11,119
and realizing my

2300
01:38:16,390 --> 01:38:14,320
contact experiences and

2301
01:38:18,390 --> 01:38:16,400
being a little girl and pl playing in

2302
01:38:19,510 --> 01:38:18,400
the backyard with all those other little

2303
01:38:22,229 --> 01:38:19,520
kids

2304
01:38:23,270 --> 01:38:22,239
and imaginary friends and those other

2305
01:38:26,070 --> 01:38:23,280
little beings

2306
01:38:28,830 --> 01:38:26,080
and the big black triangle ships in the

2307
01:38:32,229 --> 01:38:28,840
sky behind my backyard

2308
01:38:33,750 --> 01:38:32,239
um putting kind of those things together

2309
01:38:35,109 --> 01:38:33,760
and learning about something called

2310
01:38:37,590 --> 01:38:35,119
screen memory

2311
01:38:39,590 --> 01:38:37,600
uh that's that's one of those things

2312
01:38:41,109 --> 01:38:39,600
that you're just like oh man if this is

2313
01:38:45,350 --> 01:38:41,119
a thing right

2314
01:38:48,870 --> 01:38:45,360
so as i'm putting together kind of those

2315
01:38:51,990 --> 01:38:48,880
kind of scary um

2316
01:38:54,790 --> 01:38:52,000
you know stories i also have this

2317
01:38:57,430 --> 01:38:54,800
shamanic training that is happening

2318
01:38:58,310 --> 01:38:57,440
and journeying and kind of understanding

2319
01:39:02,709 --> 01:38:58,320
the greater

2320
01:39:05,189 --> 01:39:02,719
amazing friends

2321
01:39:06,390 --> 01:39:05,199
in the ufo community which you know and

2322
01:39:10,149 --> 01:39:06,400
you're one of them

2323
01:39:13,430 --> 01:39:10,159
but you know i'm meeting these wonderful

2324
01:39:15,510 --> 01:39:13,440
people and i'm realizing like

2325
01:39:17,990 --> 01:39:15,520
like just like yvonne says these people

2326
01:39:22,229 --> 01:39:18,000
are from all walks of life

2327
01:39:26,310 --> 01:39:22,239
and the more i start befriending people

2328
01:39:31,109 --> 01:39:26,320
the more my um sagittarian

2329
01:39:34,390 --> 01:39:31,119
punk rock kind of um loyal nature

2330
01:39:37,430 --> 01:39:34,400
is getting upset when i'm seeing

2331
01:39:40,870 --> 01:39:37,440
them be discounted

2332
01:39:43,430 --> 01:39:40,880
and kind of bullied or laughed at

2333
01:39:45,189 --> 01:39:43,440
for these experiences that i know are

2334
01:39:48,870 --> 01:39:45,199
real

2335
01:39:50,950 --> 01:39:48,880
and so that's kind of when ciro came in

2336
01:39:52,870 --> 01:39:50,960
and that's when i became a member of

2337
01:39:55,510 --> 01:39:52,880
cyril and yvonne and i became really

2338
01:39:58,870 --> 01:39:55,520
good friends and

2339
01:40:00,470 --> 01:39:58,880
now i'm just like i just want to take

2340
01:40:05,350 --> 01:40:00,480
the

2341
01:40:08,709 --> 01:40:05,360
shame that happens with

2342
01:40:09,270 --> 01:40:08,719
experiencers like dude how is that your

2343
01:40:11,590 --> 01:40:09,280
fault

2344
01:40:12,629 --> 01:40:11,600
that something happened to you i mean

2345
01:40:14,870 --> 01:40:12,639
we're dealing

2346
01:40:15,830 --> 01:40:14,880
with this there's an aspect of the

2347
01:40:18,550 --> 01:40:15,840
phenomena

2348
01:40:20,709 --> 01:40:18,560
here's what i'll say there are a lot of

2349
01:40:25,669 --> 01:40:20,719
different

2350
01:40:28,870 --> 01:40:25,679
beings out there energetic entities

2351
01:40:31,350 --> 01:40:28,880
they resonate at different vibrations

2352
01:40:32,310 --> 01:40:31,360
some are low and those are perceived as

2353
01:40:36,950 --> 01:40:32,320
what we call

2354
01:40:39,350 --> 01:40:36,960
bad or evil some resonate very high

2355
01:40:41,430 --> 01:40:39,360
but the bottom line is that they all

2356
01:40:44,870 --> 01:40:41,440
have an agenda

2357
01:40:47,430 --> 01:40:44,880
and you have to take all human

2358
01:40:48,470 --> 01:40:47,440
emotional notion out of this

2359
01:40:50,870 --> 01:40:48,480
conversation

2360
01:40:52,390 --> 01:40:50,880
because they don't feel the way we feel

2361
01:40:55,990 --> 01:40:52,400
they don't have that emotional

2362
01:40:58,070 --> 01:40:56,000
component so it's just this there are

2363
01:40:59,590 --> 01:40:58,080
several entities out there you are not

2364
01:41:01,430 --> 01:40:59,600
the apex predator

2365
01:41:02,870 --> 01:41:01,440
let's let's just like knock that out

2366
01:41:05,030 --> 01:41:02,880
right now right right and

2367
01:41:06,470 --> 01:41:05,040
they all have they all have an agenda

2368
01:41:09,030 --> 01:41:06,480
sometimes you're

2369
01:41:10,310 --> 01:41:09,040
sometimes you move with that agenda and

2370
01:41:12,550 --> 01:41:10,320
sometimes you don't

2371
01:41:13,750 --> 01:41:12,560
sometimes it's symbiotic sometimes it's

2372
01:41:16,870 --> 01:41:13,760
parasitic

2373
01:41:19,430 --> 01:41:16,880
sometimes you know what i mean and

2374
01:41:20,550 --> 01:41:19,440
we're all just flowing in this chaos but

2375
01:41:23,669 --> 01:41:20,560
the more we don't

2376
01:41:29,189 --> 01:41:23,679
talk about it the more

2377
01:41:32,390 --> 01:41:30,870
the i'm trying to get us out of that

2378
01:41:35,270 --> 01:41:32,400
trap the

2379
01:41:37,750 --> 01:41:35,280
the moment that and i was uh talking to

2380
01:41:41,030 --> 01:41:37,760
yvonne about this earlier this week

2381
01:41:44,229 --> 01:41:41,040
um the moment that you got

2382
01:41:45,270 --> 01:41:44,239
involved with ciro and you were able to

2383
01:41:48,470 --> 01:41:45,280
sit down

2384
01:41:54,629 --> 01:41:48,480
with other experiencers what was that

2385
01:42:02,390 --> 01:41:59,109
um okay so there's an interesting

2386
01:42:05,590 --> 01:42:02,400
component and i don't know

2387
01:42:07,830 --> 01:42:05,600
if this is because i'm uh

2388
01:42:10,229 --> 01:42:07,840
to my knowledge to my knowledge second

2389
01:42:13,510 --> 01:42:10,239
generation experiencer

2390
01:42:16,470 --> 01:42:13,520
or if this is just me

2391
01:42:17,270 --> 01:42:16,480
having some sort of weird mental defense

2392
01:42:19,990 --> 01:42:17,280
mechanism

2393
01:42:21,350 --> 01:42:20,000
or some traumatic response i still don't

2394
01:42:25,830 --> 01:42:21,360
know

2395
01:42:28,870 --> 01:42:25,840
but i've always come into those meetings

2396
01:42:30,709 --> 01:42:28,880
feeling a little weird because

2397
01:42:32,070 --> 01:42:30,719
there's something in me that always

2398
01:42:35,990 --> 01:42:32,080
knows

2399
01:42:39,350 --> 01:42:36,000
they don't take me i go

2400
01:42:43,430 --> 01:42:39,360
which is a very different

2401
01:42:45,109 --> 01:42:43,440
conversation so it was hard for me to

2402
01:42:46,870 --> 01:42:45,119
put myself in the context of these

2403
01:42:50,390 --> 01:42:46,880
people because

2404
01:42:53,590 --> 01:42:50,400
and then i don't want to go

2405
01:42:55,830 --> 01:42:53,600
down that path yet here's the thing

2406
01:42:57,030 --> 01:42:55,840
i'm just there to listen i share my

2407
01:43:00,390 --> 01:42:57,040
stories and they

2408
01:43:02,870 --> 01:43:00,400
share the their stories and

2409
01:43:04,870 --> 01:43:02,880
we have these great conversations it's

2410
01:43:06,550 --> 01:43:04,880
the kind of conversation that i wish was

2411
01:43:09,590 --> 01:43:06,560
happening in our external world

2412
01:43:10,470 --> 01:43:09,600
a lot more where people can disagree and

2413
01:43:13,510 --> 01:43:10,480
say

2414
01:43:14,470 --> 01:43:13,520
that's not how i see it but i respect

2415
01:43:16,229 --> 01:43:14,480
your opinion

2416
01:43:17,990 --> 01:43:16,239
and when we're done we still come out of

2417
01:43:21,109 --> 01:43:18,000
there and we're friends

2418
01:43:24,550 --> 01:43:21,119
you know it's it's an open safe

2419
01:43:27,189 --> 01:43:24,560
space for conversation now

2420
01:43:27,830 --> 01:43:27,199
um for the audience now i'm sure that

2421
01:43:29,590 --> 01:43:27,840
they're

2422
01:43:31,030 --> 01:43:29,600
especially after the conversation i just

2423
01:43:34,709 --> 01:43:31,040
had with yvonne

2424
01:43:36,830 --> 01:43:34,719
is saying to themselves wait a minute

2425
01:43:38,229 --> 01:43:36,840
lucinda doesn't qualify as an

2426
01:43:41,189 --> 01:43:38,239
experiencer

2427
01:43:42,470 --> 01:43:41,199
we haven't heard anything her dad saw

2428
01:43:49,830 --> 01:43:42,480
something

2429
01:43:51,030 --> 01:43:49,840
lucinda what how how did she get into

2430
01:43:55,030 --> 01:43:51,040
zero

2431
01:43:58,149 --> 01:43:55,040
right what what what what qualifies you

2432
01:43:58,950 --> 01:43:58,159
as an experiencer so we we've gotta

2433
01:44:02,149 --> 01:43:58,960
cross that

2434
01:44:07,910 --> 01:44:02,159
why

2435
01:44:13,270 --> 01:44:10,870
so i've had a lifetime of experiences

2436
01:44:14,950 --> 01:44:13,280
they happen in different ways

2437
01:44:18,830 --> 01:44:14,960
here's what you got to know about the

2438
01:44:18,840 --> 01:44:21,990
general

2439
01:44:29,750 --> 01:44:26,070
it will always give a backdoor

2440
01:44:32,149 --> 01:44:29,760
if i was a very intelligent et being

2441
01:44:33,109 --> 01:44:32,159
and i was watching and monitoring these

2442
01:44:37,750 --> 01:44:33,119
things we call

2443
01:44:41,109 --> 01:44:37,760
humans and i was fascinated with this

2444
01:44:43,109 --> 01:44:41,119
notion of free will

2445
01:44:44,629 --> 01:44:43,119
and i was watching these little beings

2446
01:44:47,350 --> 01:44:44,639
that have free will

2447
01:44:48,470 --> 01:44:47,360
and i wanted to kind of see what they do

2448
01:44:51,750 --> 01:44:48,480
i would always

2449
01:44:55,189 --> 01:44:51,760
leave something so i would give them a

2450
01:44:59,669 --> 01:44:55,199
crazy experiences and contact them

2451
01:45:01,669 --> 01:44:59,679
and show a little et being in the house

2452
01:45:04,070 --> 01:45:01,679
but i'd make it on a night where maybe

2453
01:45:05,910 --> 01:45:04,080
they drank a little too much

2454
01:45:09,030 --> 01:45:05,920
do you know what i mean always leave a

2455
01:45:13,030 --> 01:45:09,040
little back door for doubt

2456
01:45:15,350 --> 01:45:13,040
and so i play with that a lot

2457
01:45:16,070 --> 01:45:15,360
and that's always my go-to right because

2458
01:45:20,390 --> 01:45:16,080
i'd like to

2459
01:45:24,310 --> 01:45:20,400
um i try to vet everything in my head

2460
01:45:27,430 --> 01:45:24,320
what was that what happened um

2461
01:45:31,510 --> 01:45:27,440
personally i'll tell you the last well

2462
01:45:35,510 --> 01:45:31,520
i had a dream even last night but

2463
01:45:37,669 --> 01:45:35,520
they come to me in dream time a lot and

2464
01:45:39,510 --> 01:45:37,679
i don't know why but dream time is kind

2465
01:45:43,590 --> 01:45:39,520
of my jam

2466
01:45:45,669 --> 01:45:43,600
now the last experience i had was

2467
01:45:47,590 --> 01:45:45,679
a few years ago when we were camping in

2468
01:45:49,109 --> 01:45:47,600
the redwoods

2469
01:45:51,270 --> 01:45:49,119
already everyone's like oh camping in

2470
01:45:52,310 --> 01:45:51,280
the redwoods we went camping in the

2471
01:45:55,430 --> 01:45:52,320
redwoods

2472
01:45:58,229 --> 01:45:55,440
two years ago summertime

2473
01:46:00,470 --> 01:45:58,239
and um so i have a husband and i have

2474
01:46:04,310 --> 01:46:00,480
three little boys

2475
01:46:07,430 --> 01:46:04,320
so two-tenths picture this redwoods

2476
01:46:10,629 --> 01:46:07,440
two-tenths um my husband

2477
01:46:13,750 --> 01:46:10,639
and older son are in one tent

2478
01:46:14,790 --> 01:46:13,760
right next to me and i've got the two

2479
01:46:17,590 --> 01:46:14,800
little boys

2480
01:46:18,470 --> 01:46:17,600
in my tent and i'm sleeping right by the

2481
01:46:19,990 --> 01:46:18,480
door

2482
01:46:23,590 --> 01:46:20,000
and it's one of these tents where the

2483
01:46:25,990 --> 01:46:23,600
top is mesh and so you can see the stars

2484
01:46:27,669 --> 01:46:26,000
and it's beautiful because you can see

2485
01:46:28,070 --> 01:46:27,679
with me and the two little ones and

2486
01:46:31,750 --> 01:46:28,080
we're

2487
01:46:35,189 --> 01:46:31,760
looking laying on our backs

2488
01:46:37,750 --> 01:46:35,199
looking up at um at the stars and you

2489
01:46:39,109 --> 01:46:37,760
you could see like the canopy of the

2490
01:46:40,709 --> 01:46:39,119
redwoods over you

2491
01:46:42,950 --> 01:46:40,719
and so they're kind of like there's

2492
01:46:45,030 --> 01:46:42,960
trees on to the left and to the right

2493
01:46:48,149 --> 01:46:45,040
and then the middle is the strip of

2494
01:46:51,430 --> 01:46:48,159
stars and it's a beautiful night

2495
01:46:53,189 --> 01:46:51,440
and you can hear the camper van

2496
01:46:55,189 --> 01:46:53,199
like if you know you can hear the other

2497
01:46:57,830 --> 01:46:55,199
campers you hear a dog barking and you

2498
01:47:01,430 --> 01:46:57,840
hear crickets and it's the typical night

2499
01:47:03,590 --> 01:47:01,440
and we go to sleep and then i'm still

2500
01:47:06,229 --> 01:47:03,600
laying in my back

2501
01:47:06,950 --> 01:47:06,239
and it's like this i it's like akin to

2502
01:47:10,470 --> 01:47:06,960
somebody

2503
01:47:12,310 --> 01:47:10,480
shining a maglite in your face so i wake

2504
01:47:15,590 --> 01:47:12,320
up kind of squinting

2505
01:47:16,550 --> 01:47:15,600
looking up what is that light and

2506
01:47:20,310 --> 01:47:16,560
there's a

2507
01:47:23,669 --> 01:47:20,320
bright light between the

2508
01:47:28,070 --> 01:47:23,679
the canopy of trees and i'm

2509
01:47:29,590 --> 01:47:28,080
squinting looking at this light and

2510
01:47:31,189 --> 01:47:29,600
when this happens to you a million

2511
01:47:32,149 --> 01:47:31,199
things go through your head so number

2512
01:47:34,830 --> 01:47:32,159
one

2513
01:47:36,629 --> 01:47:34,840
huh i always think of like um those

2514
01:47:37,750 --> 01:47:36,639
helicopter um

2515
01:47:39,990 --> 01:47:37,760
lights when they're looking for a

2516
01:47:43,430 --> 01:47:40,000
criminal part

2517
01:47:46,950 --> 01:47:43,440
yeah the spotlight yeah yeah the lapd

2518
01:47:49,270 --> 01:47:46,960
spotlight yes so that

2519
01:47:50,149 --> 01:47:49,280
you know i'm no stranger to that one and

2520
01:47:51,910 --> 01:47:50,159
so

2521
01:47:54,149 --> 01:47:51,920
i'm thinking that but then i think it's

2522
01:47:57,910 --> 01:47:54,159
not moving and then i think

2523
01:47:59,750 --> 01:47:57,920
there's no sound and then i think

2524
01:48:01,430 --> 01:47:59,760
it must be late because i don't hear any

2525
01:48:03,750 --> 01:48:01,440
of the campers

2526
01:48:05,030 --> 01:48:03,760
and then i think why don't i hear the

2527
01:48:08,310 --> 01:48:05,040
crickets either

2528
01:48:09,990 --> 01:48:08,320
like i hear no sound

2529
01:48:13,350 --> 01:48:10,000
and then when something like that

2530
01:48:15,830 --> 01:48:13,360
happens it puts me into this weird

2531
01:48:17,350 --> 01:48:15,840
hyper awareness where all of a sudden my

2532
01:48:20,149 --> 01:48:17,360
senses start like my

2533
01:48:21,350 --> 01:48:20,159
my psychic spidey senses start just

2534
01:48:23,910 --> 01:48:21,360
going

2535
01:48:26,950 --> 01:48:23,920
now i'm like throwing out vibrations and

2536
01:48:31,270 --> 01:48:26,960
i feel the energy of something

2537
01:48:35,590 --> 01:48:31,280
small by my head

2538
01:48:38,070 --> 01:48:35,600
to my right kind of where the tent door

2539
01:48:42,870 --> 01:48:40,950
and i'm looking at this light and it's

2540
01:48:44,790 --> 01:48:42,880
not moving and it's still bright

2541
01:48:46,149 --> 01:48:44,800
and it's not moving and it's not the

2542
01:48:48,709 --> 01:48:46,159
moon and i

2543
01:48:50,390 --> 01:48:48,719
grab like i feel to my side and i grab

2544
01:48:52,470 --> 01:48:50,400
my glasses and i put it on

2545
01:48:54,550 --> 01:48:52,480
i put my glasses on and it's just a

2546
01:48:58,390 --> 01:48:54,560
super bright light

2547
01:49:01,590 --> 01:48:58,400
and then i think to myself oh

2548
01:49:05,990 --> 01:49:01,600
that's a ufo and i

2549
01:49:06,790 --> 01:49:06,000
hear a voice from that right side by my

2550
01:49:10,629 --> 01:49:06,800
head

2551
01:49:14,470 --> 01:49:10,639
say go to sleep

2552
01:49:18,070 --> 01:49:14,480
and my first inclination is like

2553
01:49:21,109 --> 01:49:18,080
go to sleep and then on the left

2554
01:49:25,589 --> 01:49:21,119
of my head i hear my voice

2555
01:49:27,669 --> 01:49:25,599
say you can't deal with this awake

2556
01:49:29,030 --> 01:49:27,679
if you're going to interact with them

2557
01:49:31,510 --> 01:49:29,040
you have to do that

2558
01:49:34,070 --> 01:49:31,520
in your other self you need to go you

2559
01:49:36,229 --> 01:49:34,080
need to let her take over

2560
01:49:38,149 --> 01:49:36,239
now wait a minute so your your two boys

2561
01:49:41,189 --> 01:49:38,159
are in the tent with you

2562
01:49:42,550 --> 01:49:41,199
the exactly jimmy yeah exactly yeah this

2563
01:49:45,990 --> 01:49:42,560
is crazy town

2564
01:49:46,950 --> 01:49:46,000
you know i'm a parent so uh off to your

2565
01:49:49,990 --> 01:49:46,960
right

2566
01:49:53,350 --> 01:49:50,000
do you think that that that being was

2567
01:49:58,870 --> 01:49:53,360
was physical like in the tent with you

2568
01:50:06,310 --> 01:50:03,189
i don't know it was i don't think so

2569
01:50:07,510 --> 01:50:06,320
but it was enough now keep in mind this

2570
01:50:09,669 --> 01:50:07,520
this conversation in my head is

2571
01:50:13,350 --> 01:50:09,679
happening in a split second

2572
01:50:15,830 --> 01:50:13,360
sure and then i go back to sleep

2573
01:50:17,430 --> 01:50:15,840
and then it's morning and we get the ten

2574
01:50:18,229 --> 01:50:17,440
you know we put pack up the tents and

2575
01:50:19,990 --> 01:50:18,239
we're gonna go

2576
01:50:21,189 --> 01:50:20,000
to the you know ride the train because

2577
01:50:22,790 --> 01:50:21,199
we're in northern california we're gonna

2578
01:50:24,229 --> 01:50:22,800
go ride the train and you know

2579
01:50:26,550 --> 01:50:24,239
like in felton i think it was or

2580
01:50:27,030 --> 01:50:26,560
something and and okay we're gonna and

2581
01:50:31,030 --> 01:50:27,040
we're

2582
01:50:32,950 --> 01:50:31,040
drive and i'm sitting passenger in the

2583
01:50:35,830 --> 01:50:32,960
van and the kids are in the back

2584
01:50:37,270 --> 01:50:35,840
and my husband's driving and i out of

2585
01:50:40,310 --> 01:50:37,280
nowhere

2586
01:50:43,990 --> 01:50:40,320
it comes flooding back and i go

2587
01:50:47,030 --> 01:50:44,000
out loud i said why did i go to sleep

2588
01:50:47,430 --> 01:50:47,040
because my kids are in the now mama bear

2589
01:50:50,830 --> 01:50:47,440
is like

2590
01:50:53,669 --> 01:50:50,840
like i'm full on like what is happening

2591
01:50:56,870 --> 01:50:53,679
totally and it's like this

2592
01:50:59,109 --> 01:50:56,880
realization is now flooding into me like

2593
01:51:00,629 --> 01:50:59,119
oh my god and then and then of course

2594
01:51:02,390 --> 01:51:00,639
i'm doing the conversation

2595
01:51:03,750 --> 01:51:02,400
what a terrible mother lucinda what were

2596
01:51:06,229 --> 01:51:03,760
you thinking like

2597
01:51:07,750 --> 01:51:06,239
what how are you doing this what just

2598
01:51:10,629 --> 01:51:07,760
every

2599
01:51:12,709 --> 01:51:10,639
i'm trolling myself essentially like

2600
01:51:15,990 --> 01:51:12,719
what a terrible person you are

2601
01:51:19,270 --> 01:51:16,000
and that's part of the

2602
01:51:21,189 --> 01:51:19,280
phenomenon because you are dealing with

2603
01:51:23,270 --> 01:51:21,199
something that is manipulating your

2604
01:51:25,589 --> 01:51:23,280
thoughts and emotions

2605
01:51:27,990 --> 01:51:25,599
it like just like terry says it tones

2606
01:51:29,830 --> 01:51:28,000
down your emotion right terry lovely so

2607
01:51:31,750 --> 01:51:29,840
you have this weird kind of apathy like

2608
01:51:32,629 --> 01:51:31,760
yep this is happening i see this weird

2609
01:51:35,669 --> 01:51:32,639
little thing

2610
01:51:38,149 --> 01:51:35,679
i'm just like yep there's a ufo and it's

2611
01:51:39,669 --> 01:51:38,159
i guess it's time for me to go and and

2612
01:51:43,510 --> 01:51:39,679
and

2613
01:51:45,430 --> 01:51:43,520
i think the whole point

2614
01:51:46,790 --> 01:51:45,440
of the reason why people don't talk

2615
01:51:50,629 --> 01:51:46,800
about this is because

2616
01:51:54,870 --> 01:51:50,639
that can be very shame inducing

2617
01:51:57,350 --> 01:51:54,880
and we are a cancel culture that likes

2618
01:51:59,750 --> 01:51:57,360
to shame people and just say you know

2619
01:52:03,189 --> 01:51:59,760
what you did something wrong you're done

2620
01:52:06,390 --> 01:52:03,199
and i'm sorry all humans are fallible

2621
01:52:10,070 --> 01:52:06,400
and that's what makes us beautiful you

2622
01:52:12,950 --> 01:52:10,080
we are gonna mess up people and so

2623
01:52:13,270 --> 01:52:12,960
this is what i want the world to know is

2624
01:52:16,149 --> 01:52:13,280
that

2625
01:52:18,550 --> 01:52:16,159
things like this are beyond our control

2626
01:52:20,550 --> 01:52:18,560
and we have got to stop

2627
01:52:22,550 --> 01:52:20,560
shaming each other and having a

2628
01:52:25,030 --> 01:52:22,560
conversation about

2629
01:52:26,790 --> 01:52:25,040
dude that was crazy that's kind of weird

2630
01:52:28,310 --> 01:52:26,800
i may not totally get it

2631
01:52:30,870 --> 01:52:28,320
but i'm going to support you and listen

2632
01:52:34,310 --> 01:52:30,880
to what you have to say

2633
01:52:37,990 --> 01:52:34,320
that's the experiencer part of it and

2634
01:52:41,189 --> 01:52:38,000
that's what's really um

2635
01:52:44,470 --> 01:52:41,199
motivating me right now i

2636
01:52:48,310 --> 01:52:44,480
just want to take the shame out of it

2637
01:52:51,350 --> 01:52:48,320
um there's there's a component to this

2638
01:52:52,870 --> 01:52:51,360
that uh i want to address uh rather

2639
01:52:55,030 --> 01:52:52,880
directly and for the

2640
01:52:56,070 --> 01:52:55,040
for the audience to understand who you

2641
01:52:58,790 --> 01:52:56,080
are

2642
01:53:01,109 --> 01:52:58,800
um i'm not going to disclose anything

2643
01:53:03,270 --> 01:53:01,119
radical here but you are a professional

2644
01:53:04,550 --> 01:53:03,280
in the aerospace industry number one and

2645
01:53:06,550 --> 01:53:04,560
so is your husband

2646
01:53:09,430 --> 01:53:06,560
you've got three beautiful sons that i

2647
01:53:13,430 --> 01:53:09,440
know i've met i've broke bread with

2648
01:53:16,790 --> 01:53:13,440
um you have you have a a very nice home

2649
01:53:17,189 --> 01:53:16,800
nice piece of property um things are

2650
01:53:20,390 --> 01:53:17,199
going

2651
01:53:23,510 --> 01:53:20,400
on but if i'm driving down the road

2652
01:53:24,709 --> 01:53:23,520
and i'm driving past your home and i see

2653
01:53:27,510 --> 01:53:24,719
you and your husband

2654
01:53:28,790 --> 01:53:27,520
out in the yard with your three kids i'm

2655
01:53:30,950 --> 01:53:28,800
thinking

2656
01:53:32,950 --> 01:53:30,960
that's a very successful professional

2657
01:53:36,470 --> 01:53:32,960
couple look at the pad

2658
01:53:39,990 --> 01:53:36,480
look at the kids wow

2659
01:53:43,030 --> 01:53:40,000
but what doesn't enter my mind

2660
01:53:45,510 --> 01:53:43,040
is you are an experiencer

2661
01:53:47,109 --> 01:53:45,520
that is doing things in this community

2662
01:53:47,830 --> 01:53:47,119
and you're going to be on a radio show

2663
01:53:51,750 --> 01:53:47,840
like this

2664
01:53:55,589 --> 01:53:51,760
right that doesn't enter people's minds

2665
01:53:58,709 --> 01:53:55,599
and it could be anybody including

2666
01:54:00,790 --> 01:53:58,719
the perfect family uh living on a ranch

2667
01:54:03,109 --> 01:54:00,800
right there there there is no

2668
01:54:06,390 --> 01:54:03,119
discrimination here

2669
01:54:09,589 --> 01:54:06,400
not only that but if you see us

2670
01:54:13,189 --> 01:54:09,599
i think you would think that we would

2671
01:54:15,750 --> 01:54:13,199
judge something like that and that like

2672
01:54:17,189 --> 01:54:15,760
we would be the kind of people that you

2673
01:54:18,149 --> 01:54:17,199
wouldn't tell them you had this

2674
01:54:21,430 --> 01:54:18,159
experience right

2675
01:54:24,790 --> 01:54:21,440
right right right well what about okay

2676
01:54:27,189 --> 01:54:24,800
so uh let's take things a step further

2677
01:54:28,390 --> 01:54:27,199
what about your co-workers do they know

2678
01:54:30,470 --> 01:54:28,400
anything about this

2679
01:54:31,750 --> 01:54:30,480
do you tell them hey tonight i'm on a

2680
01:54:35,510 --> 01:54:31,760
fade to black

2681
01:54:36,310 --> 01:54:35,520
you gotta listen in yeah i posted it on

2682
01:54:40,390 --> 01:54:36,320
facebook

2683
01:54:42,149 --> 01:54:40,400
um yeah listen i and this is this goes

2684
01:54:43,669 --> 01:54:42,159
this goes back again to the punk rock

2685
01:54:47,109 --> 01:54:43,679
roots right

2686
01:54:47,910 --> 01:54:47,119
you don't give a crap no the punk rock

2687
01:54:50,790 --> 01:54:47,920
roots are like

2688
01:54:52,709 --> 01:54:50,800
you know don't give a crap i think it's

2689
01:54:55,750 --> 01:54:52,719
i don't give a crap like and

2690
01:54:58,870 --> 01:54:55,760
so people i i have um

2691
01:55:01,189 --> 01:54:58,880
i have one co-worker who saw

2692
01:55:02,149 --> 01:55:01,199
close encounters of the fourth kind and

2693
01:55:05,109 --> 01:55:02,159
was so

2694
01:55:05,910 --> 01:55:05,119
terrified that when i even bring up this

2695
01:55:08,149 --> 01:55:05,920
subject

2696
01:55:10,390 --> 01:55:08,159
he's just like i'm out i'm out i'm out

2697
01:55:14,950 --> 01:55:10,400
he's like he can't deal with it right

2698
01:55:16,950 --> 01:55:14,960
and i have some that um ask me questions

2699
01:55:18,790 --> 01:55:16,960
uh these are co-workers right and these

2700
01:55:21,030 --> 01:55:18,800
are engineers you know so they

2701
01:55:22,149 --> 01:55:21,040
so everything every conversation when it

2702
01:55:23,669 --> 01:55:22,159
starts getting deep

2703
01:55:25,109 --> 01:55:23,679
you know the white board's coming out

2704
01:55:25,830 --> 01:55:25,119
with the little whiteboard erasers and

2705
01:55:27,750 --> 01:55:25,840
they're going to start

2706
01:55:29,750 --> 01:55:27,760
drawing you know schematics of

2707
01:55:31,589 --> 01:55:29,760
propulsion systems to try to figure out

2708
01:55:31,990 --> 01:55:31,599
why i saw the craft that i saw that

2709
01:55:35,350 --> 01:55:32,000
totally

2710
01:55:37,910 --> 01:55:35,360
took off at this insane angle um

2711
01:55:38,950 --> 01:55:37,920
yeah i i ask those kinds of questions

2712
01:55:42,470 --> 01:55:38,960
all the time

2713
01:55:46,629 --> 01:55:42,480
now i love my job i love my people okay

2714
01:55:49,510 --> 01:55:46,639
fair enough fair enough um now

2715
01:55:50,550 --> 01:55:49,520
you as you start to go through this

2716
01:55:52,470 --> 01:55:50,560
journey

2717
01:55:54,870 --> 01:55:52,480
um you've got yvonne smith you've got

2718
01:55:57,109 --> 01:55:54,880
the fader notch you've got fade to black

2719
01:55:59,109 --> 01:55:57,119
uh you're hanging out now you're you're

2720
01:56:01,189 --> 01:55:59,119
going to all the conferences

2721
01:56:02,950 --> 01:56:01,199
uh you're coming to all the dinners over

2722
01:56:06,229 --> 01:56:02,960
at the house uh

2723
01:56:09,109 --> 01:56:06,239
and and you're meeting um everybody

2724
01:56:10,229 --> 01:56:09,119
how has that journey been and and the

2725
01:56:14,149 --> 01:56:10,239
community

2726
01:56:15,990 --> 01:56:14,159
uh itself um uh bringing you

2727
01:56:17,830 --> 01:56:16,000
into the community and the acceptance

2728
01:56:21,189 --> 01:56:17,840
how's how's that been over the last few

2729
01:56:29,109 --> 01:56:25,589
it's been really um

2730
01:56:31,910 --> 01:56:29,119
for first and foremost it's lovely

2731
01:56:33,430 --> 01:56:31,920
it's it's it's wonderful to just engage

2732
01:56:37,430 --> 01:56:33,440
with these people

2733
01:56:38,070 --> 01:56:37,440
um i'm seeing okay so now i've been in

2734
01:56:42,470 --> 01:56:38,080
it

2735
01:56:45,189 --> 01:56:42,480
enough right like i had

2736
01:56:46,790 --> 01:56:45,199
um the second time i went to contact in

2737
01:56:50,870 --> 01:56:46,800
the desert

2738
01:56:54,229 --> 01:56:50,880
uh i looked at the program

2739
01:56:55,669 --> 01:56:54,239
and i saw a couple of names

2740
01:56:57,510 --> 01:56:55,679
i don't know if you even want me to name

2741
01:56:59,030 --> 01:56:57,520
them i saw a couple of names on the

2742
01:57:01,830 --> 01:56:59,040
program

2743
01:57:02,870 --> 01:57:01,840
and immediately the voice in my head

2744
01:57:05,990 --> 01:57:02,880
said

2745
01:57:07,350 --> 01:57:06,000
not yet and i was like really because

2746
01:57:08,830 --> 01:57:07,360
these people are pretty popular and

2747
01:57:10,070 --> 01:57:08,840
everybody's kind of really into this

2748
01:57:13,990 --> 01:57:10,080
storyline

2749
01:57:17,350 --> 01:57:14,000
uh not yet all right

2750
01:57:19,270 --> 01:57:17,360
the year that i went back uh

2751
01:57:20,629 --> 01:57:19,280
the next the next year at contact in the

2752
01:57:23,589 --> 01:57:20,639
desert

2753
01:57:25,109 --> 01:57:23,599
is when it it moved to the renaissance

2754
01:57:26,070 --> 01:57:25,119
okay so now we're going now i'm driving

2755
01:57:27,669 --> 01:57:26,080
to palm desert

2756
01:57:30,070 --> 01:57:27,679
and i do this thing as i'm driving

2757
01:57:32,709 --> 01:57:30,080
because you know busy mom like i can't

2758
01:57:33,750 --> 01:57:32,719
think to myself until i get in the car

2759
01:57:35,750 --> 01:57:33,760
and i'm gonna make that

2760
01:57:37,510 --> 01:57:35,760
that drive right to the desert so now i

2761
01:57:39,109 --> 01:57:37,520
can kind of think and plan my

2762
01:57:41,189 --> 01:57:39,119
days and like so who do i want what

2763
01:57:44,870 --> 01:57:41,199
lectures do i want to go to

2764
01:57:46,629 --> 01:57:44,880
and i said to myself i thought to myself

2765
01:57:48,870 --> 01:57:46,639
what about this um

2766
01:57:50,390 --> 01:57:48,880
so and so and so and so you know people

2767
01:57:53,510 --> 01:57:50,400
in the community

2768
01:57:55,270 --> 01:57:53,520
and then it said now you're ready and

2769
01:57:56,950 --> 01:57:55,280
i knew something was interesting with

2770
01:57:58,070 --> 01:57:56,960
that because as i was packing for that

2771
01:58:01,189 --> 01:57:58,080
conference

2772
01:58:03,990 --> 01:58:01,199
i was guided to bring my red box

2773
01:58:05,030 --> 01:58:04,000
and my red box is where i keep a lot of

2774
01:58:08,470 --> 01:58:05,040
my

2775
01:58:11,189 --> 01:58:08,480
shamanic supplies

2776
01:58:13,030 --> 01:58:11,199
okay and so i thought why am i bringing

2777
01:58:15,669 --> 01:58:13,040
my red box to contact in the desert but

2778
01:58:19,510 --> 01:58:15,679
now bring the red box

2779
01:58:22,870 --> 01:58:19,520
interestingly you know in a typical

2780
01:58:26,070 --> 01:58:22,880
the way the synchronicity works i

2781
01:58:27,430 --> 01:58:26,080
go to the conference i check in and that

2782
01:58:28,149 --> 01:58:27,440
first night it's like the thursday night

2783
01:58:31,750 --> 01:58:28,159
whatever

2784
01:58:34,149 --> 01:58:31,760
and i make a friend and it turns out

2785
01:58:37,510 --> 01:58:34,159
that that friend

2786
01:58:40,310 --> 01:58:37,520
is in the inner circle of

2787
01:58:43,270 --> 01:58:40,320
so and so person in the ufo community

2788
01:58:46,550 --> 01:58:43,280
that is very popular at the time

2789
01:58:49,589 --> 01:58:46,560
and so interesting i had no idea

2790
01:58:53,189 --> 01:58:49,599
but now i have it in and i am introduced

2791
01:58:57,990 --> 01:58:53,199
to so and so in the ufo community

2792
01:59:00,709 --> 01:58:58,000
uh and he is very standoffish with me

2793
01:59:01,589 --> 01:59:00,719
bear won't barely looks at me won't

2794
01:59:03,350 --> 01:59:01,599
shake my hand

2795
01:59:04,950 --> 01:59:03,360
even though i go to shake his hand it

2796
01:59:07,910 --> 01:59:04,960
was all pre-coped and i

2797
01:59:09,350 --> 01:59:07,920
nice to meet you take his hand like and

2798
01:59:11,990 --> 01:59:09,360
you know how the conferences work

2799
01:59:13,750 --> 01:59:12,000
everybody's so happy and jovial and

2800
01:59:15,589 --> 01:59:13,760
happy to engage with one another and

2801
01:59:16,390 --> 01:59:15,599
like yeah let's talk and it's like fun

2802
01:59:18,550 --> 01:59:16,400
party

2803
01:59:20,229 --> 01:59:18,560
weekend and i'm just like hi nice to

2804
01:59:21,030 --> 01:59:20,239
meet you and i put my hand out and he

2805
01:59:24,950 --> 01:59:21,040
gets

2806
01:59:29,669 --> 01:59:24,960
uh-huh yeah like nothing

2807
01:59:37,910 --> 01:59:33,589
something else happened that conference

2808
01:59:41,189 --> 01:59:37,920
which is before that that same day

2809
01:59:43,350 --> 01:59:41,199
at four o'clock i got

2810
01:59:44,390 --> 01:59:43,360
really tired and i said i'll go to the

2811
01:59:48,390 --> 01:59:44,400
room

2812
01:59:51,510 --> 01:59:48,400
little while and then the voice said

2813
01:59:53,669 --> 01:59:51,520
get the red box go it's time

2814
01:59:56,229 --> 01:59:53,679
and i was like okay and i was just

2815
02:00:00,229 --> 01:59:56,239
totally sensing something

2816
02:00:02,870 --> 02:00:00,239
and i got the red box and i

2817
02:00:03,510 --> 02:00:02,880
um just threw on my headphones because i

2818
02:00:06,629 --> 02:00:03,520
didn't want to be

2819
02:00:11,109 --> 02:00:06,639
distracted with all the noise and i

2820
02:00:15,189 --> 02:00:11,119
felt something in the hotel something

2821
02:00:18,629 --> 02:00:15,199
of a very let's say negative energy

2822
02:00:19,910 --> 02:00:18,639
um was in that hotel and it came in at

2823
02:00:23,109 --> 02:00:19,920
that time

2824
02:00:26,229 --> 02:00:23,119
and it came in like right at i think it

2825
02:00:29,910 --> 02:00:26,239
was like seven o'clock

2826
02:00:33,270 --> 02:00:29,920
and i get the box and i'm like oh

2827
02:00:35,109 --> 02:00:33,280
what is what is this and i could feel

2828
02:00:35,669 --> 02:00:35,119
something pulsing over the lobby of the

2829
02:00:40,149 --> 02:00:35,679
people

2830
02:00:41,510 --> 02:00:40,159
very back where the pyramid thing is

2831
02:00:42,709 --> 02:00:41,520
because you were doing fade to black

2832
02:00:46,149 --> 02:00:42,719
because it was seven

2833
02:00:48,870 --> 02:00:46,159
right and i said

2834
02:00:51,910 --> 02:00:48,880
i got in the i remember oh gosh i

2835
02:00:53,189 --> 02:00:51,920
remember i got in the um

2836
02:00:55,510 --> 02:00:53,199
i got in the elevator i was on the

2837
02:00:58,550 --> 02:00:55,520
seventh floor i got in the elevator as

2838
02:01:01,350 --> 02:00:58,560
my i it goes down to six six

2839
02:01:02,229 --> 02:01:01,360
opens as my doors are opening across the

2840
02:01:03,910 --> 02:01:02,239
elevator

2841
02:01:05,270 --> 02:01:03,920
his doors are closing and it's him and

2842
02:01:05,990 --> 02:01:05,280
his security guard and they're coming

2843
02:01:09,270 --> 02:01:06,000
down

2844
02:01:11,910 --> 02:01:09,280
and i'm like ah

2845
02:01:12,629 --> 02:01:11,920
and i go down to the lobby and then oh i

2846
02:01:15,430 --> 02:01:12,639
get down to

2847
02:01:16,709 --> 02:01:15,440
three and now all these people pile in

2848
02:01:18,470 --> 02:01:16,719
the elevator

2849
02:01:19,750 --> 02:01:18,480
and i do this little trick that i call

2850
02:01:21,910 --> 02:01:19,760
shape-shifting

2851
02:01:23,109 --> 02:01:21,920
which is i look at the grain of the wood

2852
02:01:26,070 --> 02:01:23,119
on the wall

2853
02:01:26,870 --> 02:01:26,080
of the elevator and i just kind of merge

2854
02:01:30,470 --> 02:01:26,880
myself

2855
02:01:33,270 --> 02:01:30,480
into it and i stay very still

2856
02:01:35,030 --> 02:01:33,280
and we go down and i go out to the lobby

2857
02:01:36,709 --> 02:01:35,040
and i say

2858
02:01:38,709 --> 02:01:36,719
i'm gonna ask nancy if she wants to help

2859
02:01:41,430 --> 02:01:38,719
me okay stop

2860
02:01:42,629 --> 02:01:41,440
i gotta take a break let me okay this is

2861
02:01:45,030 --> 02:01:42,639
where we take a break this

2862
02:01:46,310 --> 02:01:45,040
is fade to black i am your host jimmy

2863
02:01:48,070 --> 02:01:46,320
church our guest tonight the one and

2864
02:01:49,750 --> 02:01:48,080
only lucinda morell

2865
02:01:52,229 --> 02:01:49,760
first time guest on the show great

2866
02:01:53,990 --> 02:01:52,239
conversation everybody stay right there

2867
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i'm your host jimmy church this is fade

2868
02:01:56,310 --> 02:01:54,960
to black

2869
02:02:00,390 --> 02:01:56,320
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02:03:26,629 --> 02:03:25,440
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2905
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2906
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2912
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2913
02:03:59,350 --> 02:03:57,119
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2914
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2915
02:04:04,790 --> 02:04:01,199
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2916
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ooh yuck they're unhealthy gross and

2917
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2918
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2928
02:04:35,750 --> 02:04:33,840
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2930
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2934
02:05:05,750 --> 02:05:01,920
you wanna know a secret i love

2935
02:05:07,990 --> 02:05:05,760
ponies i really love ponies i'm serious

2936
02:05:09,350 --> 02:05:08,000
i couldn't stay sane without poor mr

2937
02:05:12,550 --> 02:05:09,360
brush

2938
02:05:13,510 --> 02:05:12,560
why fade to black because you never got

2939
02:05:17,910 --> 02:05:13,520
that pony

2940
02:05:22,390 --> 02:05:20,069
this is fade to black with jimmy church

2941
02:05:37,910 --> 02:05:22,400
on the game changer radio network

2942
02:05:46,790 --> 02:05:43,700
[Music]

2943
02:05:48,069 --> 02:05:46,800
welcome back fade to black i am your

2944
02:05:50,790 --> 02:05:48,079
host jimmy church

2945
02:05:51,750 --> 02:05:50,800
our guest tonight lucinda morrell now i

2946
02:05:55,030 --> 02:05:51,760
don't know where

2947
02:05:58,950 --> 02:05:55,040
this uh it's the first time i've heard

2948
02:06:01,669 --> 02:05:58,960
this uh event is this story

2949
02:06:02,149 --> 02:06:01,679
um but uh and we're not naming names

2950
02:06:04,310 --> 02:06:02,159
here

2951
02:06:06,470 --> 02:06:04,320
and i would appreciate it if uh

2952
02:06:07,189 --> 02:06:06,480
everybody just kept uh the chatter down

2953
02:06:15,030 --> 02:06:07,199
on

2954
02:06:17,510 --> 02:06:15,040
oh man so anyway okay uh

2955
02:06:18,629 --> 02:06:17,520
you've got your red box uh you're on the

2956
02:06:22,390 --> 02:06:18,639
third floor you step

2957
02:06:27,990 --> 02:06:25,910
step out i n

2958
02:06:30,229 --> 02:06:28,000
i need to look for nancy i have no idea

2959
02:06:33,350 --> 02:06:30,239
where nancy is

2960
02:06:33,910 --> 02:06:33,360
and so i completely tune out and just

2961
02:06:37,030 --> 02:06:33,920
walk

2962
02:06:38,950 --> 02:06:37,040
i got the headphones on i got my box i

2963
02:06:41,270 --> 02:06:38,960
just go

2964
02:06:42,229 --> 02:06:41,280
i find myself walking out of the

2965
02:06:44,709 --> 02:06:42,239
elevators

2966
02:06:46,790 --> 02:06:44,719
hanging a left going past the lobby

2967
02:06:47,910 --> 02:06:46,800
going outside going into the triangle

2968
02:06:51,750 --> 02:06:47,920
building

2969
02:06:54,950 --> 02:06:51,760
turning right

2970
02:06:57,990 --> 02:06:54,960
turning left going to like the last room

2971
02:06:59,910 --> 02:06:58,000
i opened the door and you're shooting

2972
02:07:01,270 --> 02:06:59,920
phil you're you're you're doing fade to

2973
02:07:03,270 --> 02:07:01,280
black

2974
02:07:04,870 --> 02:07:03,280
and i walk into the room and i turn left

2975
02:07:06,550 --> 02:07:04,880
and i go all the way to the back of the

2976
02:07:07,669 --> 02:07:06,560
room and i'm just watching my feet at

2977
02:07:10,310 --> 02:07:07,679
this point

2978
02:07:12,229 --> 02:07:10,320
and i look up and nancy's in front of me

2979
02:07:14,709 --> 02:07:12,239
and i say

2980
02:07:15,270 --> 02:07:14,719
i ask her if she wants to help and she

2981
02:07:17,910 --> 02:07:15,280
says

2982
02:07:18,790 --> 02:07:17,920
sure she has no idea what she's signing

2983
02:07:21,910 --> 02:07:18,800
up for she just says

2984
02:07:23,830 --> 02:07:21,920
yes so we go back outside

2985
02:07:25,589 --> 02:07:23,840
to that little grass area where the

2986
02:07:28,790 --> 02:07:25,599
pyramid is

2987
02:07:31,109 --> 02:07:28,800
and now we're looking at the lobby and i

2988
02:07:33,589 --> 02:07:31,119
get all my stuff out of the red box

2989
02:07:35,189 --> 02:07:33,599
and i get everything ready and we have

2990
02:07:37,910 --> 02:07:35,199
our little circle

2991
02:07:38,950 --> 02:07:37,920
and we i need three so i find another

2992
02:07:41,189 --> 02:07:38,960
volunteer

2993
02:07:42,950 --> 02:07:41,199
to come and represent so that i can do

2994
02:07:46,149 --> 02:07:42,960
my circle

2995
02:07:50,550 --> 02:07:46,159
and i'm looking at it

2996
02:07:51,990 --> 02:07:50,560
at the thing that's on top of the lobby

2997
02:07:54,470 --> 02:07:52,000
that all the people in the lobby don't

2998
02:07:57,910 --> 02:07:54,480
see and it's a big

2999
02:08:01,030 --> 02:07:57,920
it looks like black

3000
02:08:01,910 --> 02:08:01,040
glass almost like a shiny onyx and it's

3001
02:08:05,030 --> 02:08:01,920
hovering over

3002
02:08:07,589 --> 02:08:05,040
the lobby and i'm looking at it

3003
02:08:09,510 --> 02:08:07,599
and nancy is behind me to my right

3004
02:08:11,510 --> 02:08:09,520
saying

3005
02:08:13,270 --> 02:08:11,520
uh that's a weird big black thing on top

3006
02:08:14,790 --> 02:08:13,280
of the lobby like she's calling out

3007
02:08:18,470 --> 02:08:14,800
everything i'm seeing

3008
02:08:20,149 --> 02:08:18,480
and i say yes and

3009
02:08:21,990 --> 02:08:20,159
then as we're watching it and we're

3010
02:08:23,750 --> 02:08:22,000
doing our little ceremony

3011
02:08:25,830 --> 02:08:23,760
to figure out what it is and to get it

3012
02:08:28,870 --> 02:08:25,840
out um

3013
02:08:32,950 --> 02:08:28,880
i see that it's dropping

3014
02:08:35,030 --> 02:08:32,960
little black shards of things

3015
02:08:36,229 --> 02:08:35,040
down on the people in the lobby and you

3016
02:08:37,350 --> 02:08:36,239
see people in the lobby and they're

3017
02:08:38,229 --> 02:08:37,360
sitting in there talking and they got

3018
02:08:40,390 --> 02:08:38,239
their wine glasses

3019
02:08:41,510 --> 02:08:40,400
they're chatting and some of them these

3020
02:08:44,390 --> 02:08:41,520
little shards are going

3021
02:08:45,669 --> 02:08:44,400
right into their top of their head right

3022
02:08:48,149 --> 02:08:45,679
through the top of their head

3023
02:08:49,270 --> 02:08:48,159
some of them are bouncing off people so

3024
02:08:50,709 --> 02:08:49,280
it's almost like clink

3025
02:08:52,709 --> 02:08:50,719
like it's just bouncing off the top of

3026
02:08:53,270 --> 02:08:52,719
their head i don't know what's happening

3027
02:08:55,990 --> 02:08:53,280
here

3028
02:08:56,629 --> 02:08:56,000
i just know that is not okay whatever

3029
02:08:58,470 --> 02:08:56,639
you are

3030
02:08:59,830 --> 02:08:58,480
you don't have permission to do this and

3031
02:09:02,550 --> 02:08:59,840
you need to go

3032
02:09:03,990 --> 02:09:02,560
and as that was happening nancy was like

3033
02:09:07,750 --> 02:09:04,000
do you see how it's dropping

3034
02:09:11,589 --> 02:09:07,760
those things and i'm like yes and

3035
02:09:14,870 --> 02:09:11,599
so nancy and i did a ceremony and

3036
02:09:14,880 --> 02:09:20,149
um and that that was a huge

3037
02:09:26,950 --> 02:09:23,750
eye-opener for me because i

3038
02:09:30,629 --> 02:09:26,960
came in to this

3039
02:09:34,629 --> 02:09:30,639
ufo world kind of blind and

3040
02:09:36,950 --> 02:09:34,639
that was the realization that like oh

3041
02:09:38,709 --> 02:09:36,960
lucinda don't forget there's a lot of

3042
02:09:41,830 --> 02:09:38,719
them with there's a lot of things

3043
02:09:45,430 --> 02:09:41,840
out there with different agendas

3044
02:09:46,550 --> 02:09:45,440
and and then it made me mad because i

3045
02:09:48,470 --> 02:09:46,560
thought about

3046
02:09:50,629 --> 02:09:48,480
those people in the lobby totally

3047
02:09:51,189 --> 02:09:50,639
unassuming seeing this thing happening

3048
02:09:53,430 --> 02:09:51,199
to them

3049
02:09:54,790 --> 02:09:53,440
which i had no idea that i was going to

3050
02:09:59,669 --> 02:09:54,800
see i didn't know

3051
02:10:01,350 --> 02:09:59,679
concept of this but seeing this and then

3052
02:10:03,030 --> 02:10:01,360
dealing with the sero meetings and the

3053
02:10:03,750 --> 02:10:03,040
experiencers and hearing people's

3054
02:10:06,870 --> 02:10:03,760
stories

3055
02:10:11,189 --> 02:10:06,880
and i just thought i don't like this

3056
02:10:13,669 --> 02:10:11,199
i want people in this field empowered

3057
02:10:14,550 --> 02:10:13,679
i want people who are going to get into

3058
02:10:16,709 --> 02:10:14,560
this thing i

3059
02:10:18,629 --> 02:10:16,719
i say this and i could be wrong this is

3060
02:10:24,550 --> 02:10:18,639
just me

3061
02:10:28,069 --> 02:10:26,830
you know how john keel says this thing

3062
02:10:30,390 --> 02:10:28,079
about

3063
02:10:32,709 --> 02:10:30,400
there's certain people that really want

3064
02:10:33,189 --> 02:10:32,719
this i kind of think aleister crowley's

3065
02:10:37,189 --> 02:10:33,199
in this

3066
02:10:38,950 --> 02:10:37,199
they really want contact and they really

3067
02:10:41,430 --> 02:10:38,960
want to be part of this thing

3068
02:10:41,990 --> 02:10:41,440
but they're not ready for it but because

3069
02:10:45,510 --> 02:10:42,000
we have

3070
02:10:47,830 --> 02:10:45,520
free choice they get into this thing

3071
02:10:48,870 --> 02:10:47,840
and they encounter a being that's like

3072
02:10:50,709 --> 02:10:48,880
oh i'm gonna

3073
02:10:52,149 --> 02:10:50,719
give you love and light and oh i feel

3074
02:10:53,030 --> 02:10:52,159
all these great wonderful loving

3075
02:10:55,270 --> 02:10:53,040
feelings

3076
02:10:57,270 --> 02:10:55,280
and they're making me all these promises

3077
02:10:57,830 --> 02:10:57,280
and it they go into this wild goose

3078
02:10:59,750 --> 02:10:57,840
chase

3079
02:11:00,870 --> 02:10:59,760
because what's really happening is that

3080
02:11:04,069 --> 02:11:00,880
this is just

3081
02:11:06,229 --> 02:11:04,079
a low-level entity that's just feeding

3082
02:11:09,589 --> 02:11:06,239
off this human's energy

3083
02:11:13,430 --> 02:11:09,599
they don't but they don't know

3084
02:11:18,229 --> 02:11:16,870
we didn't pick this we were born into

3085
02:11:19,990 --> 02:11:18,239
this

3086
02:11:22,069 --> 02:11:20,000
the one question remember when you were

3087
02:11:22,870 --> 02:11:22,079
talking to terry and he said that he

3088
02:11:24,950 --> 02:11:22,880
asks

3089
02:11:27,109 --> 02:11:24,960
like kind of we we talked about this too

3090
02:11:29,910 --> 02:11:27,119
like what's your vetting question

3091
02:11:31,750 --> 02:11:29,920
and he always asks do you remember uh a

3092
02:11:33,510 --> 02:11:31,760
childhood experience

3093
02:11:35,109 --> 02:11:33,520
remember when he talked about that and

3094
02:11:37,830 --> 02:11:35,119
he said and he said

3095
02:11:39,830 --> 02:11:37,840
but that you remember vividly some weird

3096
02:11:41,589 --> 02:11:39,840
childhood experience but you can't

3097
02:11:42,870 --> 02:11:41,599
remember like anything else you did in

3098
02:11:44,470 --> 02:11:42,880
childhood okay

3099
02:11:46,709 --> 02:11:44,480
that's terry's vetting question my

3100
02:11:49,669 --> 02:11:46,719
vetting question is always this

3101
02:11:51,669 --> 02:11:49,679
i ask people i'll ask you this jimmy

3102
02:11:55,109 --> 02:11:51,679
jimmy

3103
02:11:58,390 --> 02:11:55,119
do you feel that you are

3104
02:12:05,589 --> 02:11:58,400
a participant in this

3105
02:12:14,310 --> 02:12:08,709
i'm both

3106
02:12:17,589 --> 02:12:14,320
question i'm a participant

3107
02:12:21,830 --> 02:12:17,599
but i i play the part of

3108
02:12:25,350 --> 02:12:21,840
observer i do that daily so no i'm both

3109
02:12:28,950 --> 02:12:25,360
i'm both okay so i can tell you

3110
02:12:31,350 --> 02:12:28,960
i'll speak for myself i've never

3111
02:12:34,709 --> 02:12:31,360
felt like a participant i understand

3112
02:12:37,669 --> 02:12:34,719
that i co-create my reality in this life

3113
02:12:38,390 --> 02:12:37,679
but and and this is another thing i've

3114
02:12:40,470 --> 02:12:38,400
always felt that

3115
02:12:42,390 --> 02:12:40,480
that might just be me fate or not chime

3116
02:12:45,750 --> 02:12:42,400
in i don't know

3117
02:12:49,109 --> 02:12:45,760
i have always you know how people

3118
02:12:51,109 --> 02:12:49,119
the notion is you're born and then you

3119
02:12:52,870 --> 02:12:51,119
learn through your lifetime

3120
02:12:54,390 --> 02:12:52,880
you're born and then you learn to walk

3121
02:12:56,149 --> 02:12:54,400
and you learn to talk and you learn this

3122
02:13:00,310 --> 02:12:56,159
and you learn this

3123
02:13:03,350 --> 02:13:00,320
i've never felt that i've always felt

3124
02:13:04,950 --> 02:13:03,360
i'm born and then my job is just to

3125
02:13:07,910 --> 02:13:04,960
remember

3126
02:13:08,870 --> 02:13:07,920
because when i came into this world the

3127
02:13:12,149 --> 02:13:08,880
slate got

3128
02:13:13,830 --> 02:13:12,159
wiped clean and my job is to just

3129
02:13:16,950 --> 02:13:13,840
follow the clues so that i can get those

3130
02:13:20,149 --> 02:13:16,960
memories back it's a very

3131
02:13:22,629 --> 02:13:20,159
different experience then again

3132
02:13:23,830 --> 02:13:22,639
maybe this is why the punk rock is so

3133
02:13:27,350 --> 02:13:23,840
natural to me too

3134
02:13:30,310 --> 02:13:27,360
right because i've never been fully

3135
02:13:32,470 --> 02:13:30,320
anything you know i'm too mexican to be

3136
02:13:33,510 --> 02:13:32,480
american i'm too american to be mexican

3137
02:13:35,830 --> 02:13:33,520
i am to like

3138
02:13:36,870 --> 02:13:35,840
do you know what i mean like i you know

3139
02:13:38,790 --> 02:13:36,880
i hang out

3140
02:13:40,790 --> 02:13:38,800
on pine ridge with a bunch of natives

3141
02:13:42,390 --> 02:13:40,800
and like i got enough native in me that

3142
02:13:43,270 --> 02:13:42,400
they'll let me be there but i'm not

3143
02:13:45,189 --> 02:13:43,280
native enough

3144
02:13:46,550 --> 02:13:45,199
you know what i mean like i don't fit

3145
02:13:50,149 --> 02:13:46,560
anywhere

3146
02:13:52,950 --> 02:13:50,159
and that's in a way that's amazing

3147
02:13:54,310 --> 02:13:52,960
because that means i'm liberated from

3148
02:13:57,430 --> 02:13:54,320
everything

3149
02:14:00,229 --> 02:13:57,440
i don't belong to anyone's you know

3150
02:14:00,950 --> 02:14:00,239
label or box i get to do whatever i want

3151
02:14:04,069 --> 02:14:00,960
to do

3152
02:14:07,350 --> 02:14:04,079
right right you're not in a click and

3153
02:14:11,350 --> 02:14:07,360
no there's no click for me but there's

3154
02:14:12,470 --> 02:14:11,360
uh another part where where i agree with

3155
02:14:15,830 --> 02:14:12,480
you

3156
02:14:19,669 --> 02:14:15,840
that our uh

3157
02:14:21,430 --> 02:14:19,679
our job here and and certainly i've i've

3158
02:14:23,830 --> 02:14:21,440
realized this more and more as i get

3159
02:14:26,950 --> 02:14:23,840
older our job is to friggin

3160
02:14:29,830 --> 02:14:26,960
learn that's our gig

3161
02:14:31,109 --> 02:14:29,840
that's our gig so you're right uh an

3162
02:14:35,669 --> 02:14:31,119
observer

3163
02:14:38,790 --> 02:14:35,679
absorbing learning assessing

3164
02:14:39,430 --> 02:14:38,800
growing remembering remembering right

3165
02:14:41,270 --> 02:14:39,440
right

3166
02:14:43,750 --> 02:14:41,280
well you can't learn anything if you

3167
02:14:45,750 --> 02:14:43,760
forget and you can't apply

3168
02:14:47,750 --> 02:14:45,760
right you've you've got to be able to do

3169
02:14:49,270 --> 02:14:47,760
that and that is one of my favorite

3170
02:14:52,709 --> 02:14:49,280
parts of life

3171
02:14:55,270 --> 02:14:52,719
is is just uh on the learning quest

3172
02:14:56,629 --> 02:14:55,280
absolutely and then the participant side

3173
02:15:00,310 --> 02:14:56,639
of it though

3174
02:15:03,430 --> 02:15:00,320
look uh

3175
02:15:06,830 --> 02:15:03,440
this if you are in

3176
02:15:11,669 --> 02:15:06,840
a session with a client and you're

3177
02:15:14,310 --> 02:15:11,679
observing her kidnapper

3178
02:15:15,430 --> 02:15:14,320
you're a participant at that point

3179
02:15:21,750 --> 02:15:15,440
you're you're in that

3180
02:15:22,149 --> 02:15:21,760
that's some shakespearean stuff going

3181
02:15:25,750 --> 02:15:22,159
down

3182
02:15:28,950 --> 02:15:25,760
you are now a part of that um

3183
02:15:30,629 --> 02:15:28,960
and you are now a participant so i'm not

3184
02:15:33,030 --> 02:15:30,639
putting words in your mouth but i'm

3185
02:15:36,550 --> 02:15:33,040
saying that's how we can be

3186
02:15:39,510 --> 02:15:36,560
uh both and not necessarily

3187
02:15:40,149 --> 02:15:39,520
one or the other that that's my take on

3188
02:15:43,030 --> 02:15:40,159
it

3189
02:15:44,550 --> 02:15:43,040
um everybody has their own journey and

3190
02:15:45,750 --> 02:15:44,560
their own path and the way that they're

3191
02:15:49,189 --> 02:15:45,760
going to look at it

3192
02:15:51,910 --> 02:15:49,199
but yeah i'm i'm involved okay so

3193
02:15:54,069 --> 02:15:51,920
listen good segue into the next point

3194
02:15:57,270 --> 02:15:54,079
which is this

3195
02:15:59,910 --> 02:15:57,280
and man i wish i can shout this from the

3196
02:16:03,350 --> 02:15:59,920
rooftops

3197
02:16:07,270 --> 02:16:03,360
we seem to have forgotten

3198
02:16:11,189 --> 02:16:07,280
that everyone is just a product

3199
02:16:13,750 --> 02:16:11,199
of their experience when did we get so

3200
02:16:17,589 --> 02:16:13,760
offended with what everyone does

3201
02:16:20,470 --> 02:16:17,599
they're just doing what they know and

3202
02:16:22,069 --> 02:16:20,480
that i learned that in the ufo community

3203
02:16:25,750 --> 02:16:22,079
and now i'm expanding that

3204
02:16:27,750 --> 02:16:25,760
totally outside because

3205
02:16:28,870 --> 02:16:27,760
you see this you know because people

3206
02:16:31,589 --> 02:16:28,880
that you have even

3207
02:16:33,030 --> 02:16:31,599
um the pockets within the ufo community

3208
02:16:33,830 --> 02:16:33,040
right that was a new thing to kind of

3209
02:16:35,750 --> 02:16:33,840
figure out

3210
02:16:37,030 --> 02:16:35,760
like the whole kind of there's the nuts

3211
02:16:39,349 --> 02:16:37,040
and bolts folks

3212
02:16:41,030 --> 02:16:39,359
that are just looking for a craft and

3213
02:16:43,190 --> 02:16:41,040
i'm just kind of thinking uh

3214
02:16:44,549 --> 02:16:43,200
dude if you can knock it and it makes a

3215
02:16:46,230 --> 02:16:44,559
sound it's probably something we're

3216
02:16:47,990 --> 02:16:46,240
making i don't know but like

3217
02:16:49,349 --> 02:16:48,000
i'm i don't know and then there's the

3218
02:16:52,070 --> 02:16:49,359
whole consciousness

3219
02:16:53,910 --> 02:16:52,080
um aspect of it and then there's this

3220
02:16:58,549 --> 02:16:53,920
whole new agey thing

3221
02:17:03,110 --> 02:16:58,559
um and that's like everyone has a voice

3222
02:17:06,309 --> 02:17:03,120
and i'm happy to listen to everyone

3223
02:17:10,469 --> 02:17:06,319
but i am not okay with

3224
02:17:13,270 --> 02:17:10,479
people judging someone else's story

3225
02:17:15,190 --> 02:17:13,280
um and that's what i mean by everyone is

3226
02:17:17,910 --> 02:17:15,200
a product of their experience

3227
02:17:18,549 --> 02:17:17,920
they're telling you their story and they

3228
02:17:20,790 --> 02:17:18,559
might

3229
02:17:22,389 --> 02:17:20,800
say something that offends you or they

3230
02:17:23,110 --> 02:17:22,399
might say something that doesn't ring

3231
02:17:26,230 --> 02:17:23,120
true

3232
02:17:26,709 --> 02:17:26,240
but that's just them talking to you the

3233
02:17:30,469 --> 02:17:26,719
way

3234
02:17:31,990 --> 02:17:30,479
they know how and isn't it really cool

3235
02:17:34,790 --> 02:17:32,000
that they're even bothering to talk to

3236
02:17:38,469 --> 02:17:34,800
you like why are we so judgmental

3237
02:17:41,750 --> 02:17:38,479
well and and okay so let's talk about

3238
02:17:45,669 --> 02:17:41,760
one of our shared experiences um

3239
02:17:47,589 --> 02:17:45,679
because of uh uh

3240
02:17:49,270 --> 02:17:47,599
my statements on this i'm gonna talk

3241
02:17:52,629 --> 02:17:49,280
about the beer can

3242
02:17:56,150 --> 02:17:52,639
and and well you were there i've got

3243
02:18:00,309 --> 02:17:56,160
your video i played the video many times

3244
02:18:02,790 --> 02:18:00,319
but but that's our experience

3245
02:18:05,110 --> 02:18:02,800
and if i'm going to lay it out there

3246
02:18:07,190 --> 02:18:05,120
exactly how it went down i don't need to

3247
02:18:07,629 --> 02:18:07,200
embellish i don't need to do anything it

3248
02:18:11,190 --> 02:18:07,639
was

3249
02:18:13,669 --> 02:18:11,200
spectacular the way it just uh went down

3250
02:18:15,270 --> 02:18:13,679
but people are gonna judge that and so

3251
02:18:18,150 --> 02:18:15,280
what do i do

3252
02:18:19,349 --> 02:18:18,160
do i not share the experience do i not

3253
02:18:22,309 --> 02:18:19,359
talk about it

3254
02:18:23,349 --> 02:18:22,319
you were there that we had 20 other

3255
02:18:26,790 --> 02:18:23,359
friends of ours

3256
02:18:30,070 --> 02:18:26,800
that were all there for that and so

3257
02:18:32,870 --> 02:18:30,080
do i not talk about it

3258
02:18:34,070 --> 02:18:32,880
because i'm afraid right i'm afraid of

3259
02:18:37,110 --> 02:18:34,080
being judged

3260
02:18:40,870 --> 02:18:37,120
well i don't give a crap right now

3261
02:18:42,709 --> 02:18:40,880
when that went down uh

3262
02:18:44,709 --> 02:18:42,719
let's go back to that moment because i

3263
02:18:47,750 --> 02:18:44,719
know what i remember

3264
02:18:50,870 --> 02:18:47,760
uh what do you remember

3265
02:18:55,110 --> 02:18:50,880
all right we're on the benches

3266
02:18:58,389 --> 02:18:55,120
okay you are on a bench

3267
02:19:01,429 --> 02:18:58,399
um with a with a camera or binoculars

3268
02:19:04,950 --> 02:19:01,439
binoculars yeah binoculars that were

3269
02:19:07,349 --> 02:19:04,960
pointed towards the mountain and

3270
02:19:09,270 --> 02:19:07,359
i had just got my stuff and kind of sat

3271
02:19:11,910 --> 02:19:09,280
down at the next bench

3272
02:19:13,030 --> 02:19:11,920
and was kind of looking through my phone

3273
02:19:15,030 --> 02:19:13,040
so you would have been

3274
02:19:16,230 --> 02:19:15,040
you would have been to my right because

3275
02:19:19,429 --> 02:19:16,240
i was all the way

3276
02:19:20,230 --> 02:19:19,439
at the end on the left steve murillo our

3277
02:19:23,190 --> 02:19:20,240
friend is

3278
02:19:24,950 --> 02:19:23,200
to my right so you're to the right of

3279
02:19:27,030 --> 02:19:24,960
steve marillo

3280
02:19:28,950 --> 02:19:27,040
uh-huh morello is right next to you

3281
02:19:29,509 --> 02:19:28,960
right and i'm on the next bench over to

3282
02:19:34,629 --> 02:19:29,519
your right

3283
02:19:38,070 --> 02:19:34,639
okay and here's the thing

3284
02:19:43,429 --> 02:19:38,080
you spot it and you

3285
02:19:46,070 --> 02:19:43,439
have the reaction that instantly

3286
02:19:48,309 --> 02:19:46,080
well you know because i i perceive

3287
02:19:51,830 --> 02:19:48,319
people's energy

3288
02:19:53,990 --> 02:19:51,840
and your energy hit me like a wall

3289
02:19:55,990 --> 02:19:54,000
that's why i was like that's why i had

3290
02:19:59,110 --> 02:19:56,000
the phone and started recording

3291
02:20:03,110 --> 02:19:59,120
because you snapped into a

3292
02:20:04,950 --> 02:20:03,120
weird gear that was

3293
02:20:06,630 --> 02:20:04,960
you were like you were running full

3294
02:20:09,670 --> 02:20:06,640
cylinder do you know what i mean

3295
02:20:11,750 --> 02:20:09,680
i lost my mind yes i did i did i lost

3296
02:20:13,910 --> 02:20:11,760
control i i'll admit it

3297
02:20:15,590 --> 02:20:13,920
yeah it was like adrenaline it was like

3298
02:20:17,510 --> 02:20:15,600
adrenaline like you did the thing that

3299
02:20:21,110 --> 02:20:17,520
i'm telling you where my spidey senses

3300
02:20:25,510 --> 02:20:24,309
like you were just you went bonkers

3301
02:20:27,510 --> 02:20:25,520
because you were finally seeing

3302
02:20:28,389 --> 02:20:27,520
something and i know what that feels

3303
02:20:30,790 --> 02:20:28,399
like

3304
02:20:31,910 --> 02:20:30,800
so i just start filming and you're

3305
02:20:34,950 --> 02:20:31,920
saying

3306
02:20:37,349 --> 02:20:34,960
to film but you were so in it

3307
02:20:38,150 --> 02:20:37,359
that you weren't telling us where to

3308
02:20:40,150 --> 02:20:38,160
look

3309
02:20:41,429 --> 02:20:40,160
so i didn't know where to point the

3310
02:20:43,270 --> 02:20:41,439
camera

3311
02:20:44,950 --> 02:20:43,280
and i'm looking around and then there's

3312
02:20:46,230 --> 02:20:44,960
like birds flying like off in the

3313
02:20:46,950 --> 02:20:46,240
distance so you think it might be the

3314
02:20:48,950 --> 02:20:46,960
bird but then

3315
02:20:51,110 --> 02:20:48,960
you know it's just and you didn't say

3316
02:20:55,190 --> 02:20:51,120
beer can you you said something about

3317
02:20:57,990 --> 02:20:55,200
cylinder i think if i remember correctly

3318
02:21:00,469 --> 02:20:58,000
so i'm looking for i was actually

3319
02:21:03,270 --> 02:21:00,479
looking for like a horizontal cylinder

3320
02:21:03,830 --> 02:21:03,280
i wasn't looking for a vertical cylinder

3321
02:21:05,270 --> 02:21:03,840
okay

3322
02:21:06,870 --> 02:21:05,280
um that's why and that's why i was

3323
02:21:08,630 --> 02:21:06,880
trying to shoot and like maybe was it a

3324
02:21:10,309 --> 02:21:08,640
bird or something like that that that's

3325
02:21:12,309 --> 02:21:10,319
where my mind was going

3326
02:21:13,830 --> 02:21:12,319
this is the first time we've ever talked

3327
02:21:17,190 --> 02:21:13,840
about this by the way

3328
02:21:20,710 --> 02:21:17,200
okay so you're yeah that's my bad

3329
02:21:23,590 --> 02:21:20,720
uh okay so you're looking for a cigar

3330
02:21:24,309 --> 02:21:23,600
shape something yeah because you said

3331
02:21:26,630 --> 02:21:24,319
cylinder

3332
02:21:29,030 --> 02:21:26,640
right right and that's where my mind

3333
02:21:31,190 --> 02:21:29,040
went um

3334
02:21:32,230 --> 02:21:31,200
but i was just i was hoping i was just

3335
02:21:35,270 --> 02:21:32,240
slowly kind of

3336
02:21:36,870 --> 02:21:35,280
trying to pan to catch it that's why i

3337
02:21:38,790 --> 02:21:36,880
was like well let me just try to cover

3338
02:21:39,990 --> 02:21:38,800
everything around this whole mountain

3339
02:21:44,469 --> 02:21:40,000
and maybe it'll be in in

3340
02:21:49,030 --> 02:21:47,670
yeah but i well you know i caught a

3341
02:21:51,349 --> 02:21:49,040
photograph of something

3342
02:21:52,710 --> 02:21:51,359
on that well did you um i i haven't

3343
02:21:56,230 --> 02:21:52,720
asked you this before

3344
02:21:59,110 --> 02:21:56,240
i i love live radio did you see the

3345
02:22:02,309 --> 02:22:01,429
did you see the beer can yeah the beer

3346
02:22:05,349 --> 02:22:02,319
can

3347
02:22:06,070 --> 02:22:05,359
no you missed it i have a photograph of

3348
02:22:09,830 --> 02:22:06,080
my own

3349
02:22:12,309 --> 02:22:09,840
object well of a triangle shape thing

3350
02:22:13,830 --> 02:22:12,319
right and which is pretty incredible by

3351
02:22:17,750 --> 02:22:13,840
the way everybody um

3352
02:22:20,230 --> 02:22:17,760
but the entire beer can event

3353
02:22:21,270 --> 02:22:20,240
only lasted about 10 or 15 seconds and

3354
02:22:25,110 --> 02:22:21,280
then it was over the

3355
02:22:27,429 --> 02:22:25,120
it phased out and disappeared um

3356
02:22:28,230 --> 02:22:27,439
what was it that jimmy was so mad at

3357
02:22:30,309 --> 02:22:28,240
everybody

3358
02:22:32,630 --> 02:22:30,319
he was so mad you were like you were

3359
02:22:35,750 --> 02:22:32,640
like there's like 300 people here

3360
02:22:38,550 --> 02:22:35,760
how is it that nobody said like well no

3361
02:22:39,429 --> 02:22:38,560
plenty of people plenty of people saw it

3362
02:22:42,550 --> 02:22:39,439
nobody got

3363
02:22:45,429 --> 02:22:42,560
a f an image of it but uh

3364
02:22:46,630 --> 02:22:45,439
to to give everybody the the break that

3365
02:22:49,110 --> 02:22:46,640
they deserve

3366
02:22:50,790 --> 02:22:49,120
it was only up there for you know uh 15

3367
02:22:52,870 --> 02:22:50,800
seconds tops

3368
02:22:55,429 --> 02:22:52,880
and this is what i'm this is what i'm

3369
02:22:58,309 --> 02:22:55,439
talking about with the back door

3370
02:22:59,190 --> 02:22:58,319
do you see how the totally always gonna

3371
02:23:03,190 --> 02:22:59,200
give you that

3372
02:23:06,790 --> 02:23:03,200
yes yes yeah yeah

3373
02:23:08,950 --> 02:23:06,800
that's what i'm talking about so now sir

3374
02:23:09,990 --> 02:23:08,960
you have been initiated well you

3375
02:23:12,230 --> 02:23:10,000
probably you had that other

3376
02:23:13,590 --> 02:23:12,240
uh contact-y thing that you mentioned to

3377
02:23:16,790 --> 02:23:13,600
yvonne

3378
02:23:20,389 --> 02:23:16,800
um so see there you go

3379
02:23:24,070 --> 02:23:20,399
it uh and and going back uh

3380
02:23:28,230 --> 02:23:24,080
to that moment uh with the beer can

3381
02:23:29,270 --> 02:23:28,240
um you're i've i think about it every

3382
02:23:31,750 --> 02:23:29,280
day

3383
02:23:32,870 --> 02:23:31,760
but the more that i just go back and

3384
02:23:35,110 --> 02:23:32,880
recollect

3385
02:23:36,710 --> 02:23:35,120
um somebody mentioned this to me once

3386
02:23:37,030 --> 02:23:36,720
and now i can't like get it out of my

3387
02:23:39,270 --> 02:23:37,040
head

3388
02:23:40,070 --> 02:23:39,280
and that is that was in the middle of

3389
02:23:41,429 --> 02:23:40,080
the day

3390
02:23:43,349 --> 02:23:41,439
that was in front of a bunch of

3391
02:23:46,550 --> 02:23:43,359
witnesses uh

3392
02:23:49,590 --> 02:23:46,560
many saw exactly what you know and and

3393
02:23:52,790 --> 02:23:49,600
and have their own description of it but

3394
02:23:55,270 --> 02:23:52,800
it was in the middle of the day and i

3395
02:23:59,270 --> 02:23:55,280
think it was done just for us

3396
02:24:02,150 --> 02:23:59,280
as crazy as that sounds right

3397
02:24:03,510 --> 02:24:02,160
an object that big that real that

3398
02:24:07,990 --> 02:24:03,520
physical

3399
02:24:11,349 --> 02:24:08,000
up in the sky should have been seen

3400
02:24:12,230 --> 02:24:11,359
by thousands right this should have been

3401
02:24:14,550 --> 02:24:12,240
reported

3402
02:24:15,670 --> 02:24:14,560
and and talked about all over the

3403
02:24:18,710 --> 02:24:15,680
country

3404
02:24:19,750 --> 02:24:18,720
but it wasn't let me let let me correct

3405
02:24:22,710 --> 02:24:19,760
you

3406
02:24:24,230 --> 02:24:22,720
that was not made to be seen by us that

3407
02:24:27,429 --> 02:24:24,240
was made to be seen by

3408
02:24:29,670 --> 02:24:27,439
you yeah yeah yeah it's true i have my

3409
02:24:31,750 --> 02:24:29,680
jimmy i have my own experience seeing

3410
02:24:33,750 --> 02:24:31,760
something seeing a craft like that

3411
02:24:34,870 --> 02:24:33,760
in front of my whole family it was that

3412
02:24:39,030 --> 02:24:34,880
um

3413
02:24:40,630 --> 02:24:39,040
ah you were with me that weekend

3414
02:24:42,469 --> 02:24:40,640
the weekend that we went what's the

3415
02:24:43,030 --> 02:24:42,479
thing uh adrian valeris thing in the

3416
02:24:46,309 --> 02:24:43,040
park

3417
02:24:48,950 --> 02:24:46,319
oh a disclosure fast okay

3418
02:24:49,349 --> 02:24:48,960
remember i went to disclosure fest and i

3419
02:24:51,830 --> 02:24:49,359
left

3420
02:24:53,270 --> 02:24:51,840
early because i said i have a family

3421
02:24:54,830 --> 02:24:53,280
emergency i gotta go

3422
02:24:57,429 --> 02:24:54,840
is that when you brought brought the

3423
02:25:00,790 --> 02:24:57,439
sandwiches yes that was the dude so

3424
02:25:03,429 --> 02:25:00,800
just that was a glorious day

3425
02:25:04,150 --> 02:25:03,439
so many strange things happened that day

3426
02:25:07,030 --> 02:25:04,160
but the

3427
02:25:11,270 --> 02:25:07,040
the sandwich has calmed us down but yes

3428
02:25:14,469 --> 02:25:14,150
my cousin was in the hospital so i had

3429
02:25:17,590 --> 02:25:14,479
to

3430
02:25:19,830 --> 02:25:17,600
run off so you know the um baldwin park

3431
02:25:21,590 --> 02:25:19,840
hospital like right off the ten baldwin

3432
02:25:24,389 --> 02:25:21,600
park okay the kaiser

3433
02:25:25,750 --> 02:25:24,399
he's at kaiser so i go visit him the

3434
02:25:28,150 --> 02:25:25,760
next day i go back

3435
02:25:29,910 --> 02:25:28,160
i go to the fifth floor and when you

3436
02:25:31,270 --> 02:25:29,920
come out of the elevators you're now on

3437
02:25:32,870 --> 02:25:31,280
the fifth floor and there's a waiting

3438
02:25:34,550 --> 02:25:32,880
room and there's nothing but you see all

3439
02:25:35,910 --> 02:25:34,560
the glass of the view and you see the

3440
02:25:37,429 --> 02:25:35,920
mountains behind you i think it's like

3441
02:25:39,830 --> 02:25:37,439
the san bernardino mountains

3442
02:25:41,030 --> 02:25:39,840
okay and all my family's there in the

3443
02:25:44,469 --> 02:25:41,040
waiting room

3444
02:25:45,510 --> 02:25:44,479
and as my family their back is to that

3445
02:25:47,270 --> 02:25:45,520
window

3446
02:25:49,190 --> 02:25:47,280
and i'm listening to them talk about my

3447
02:25:52,469 --> 02:25:49,200
cousin it's a serious conversation

3448
02:25:55,429 --> 02:25:52,479
but behind them i'm looking at

3449
02:25:57,110 --> 02:25:55,439
something rising off in the distance

3450
02:26:00,389 --> 02:25:57,120
towards the mountain

3451
02:26:01,110 --> 02:26:00,399
and it's vertical still i here's what i

3452
02:26:08,230 --> 02:26:01,120
thought

3453
02:26:09,510 --> 02:26:08,240
that the sun was hitting it at an angle

3454
02:26:11,349 --> 02:26:09,520
where it was glowing

3455
02:26:12,950 --> 02:26:11,359
orange you know how when something

3456
02:26:16,469 --> 02:26:12,960
reflects i have

3457
02:26:20,790 --> 02:26:16,479
seen what you're talking about yes okay

3458
02:26:24,150 --> 02:26:20,800
i see that cylinder thing it's going up

3459
02:26:24,790 --> 02:26:24,160
up at a slow distance straight straight

3460
02:26:26,870 --> 02:26:24,800
up

3461
02:26:28,710 --> 02:26:26,880
and behind it you still see the mountain

3462
02:26:30,630 --> 02:26:28,720
so it's low enough

3463
02:26:31,830 --> 02:26:30,640
and i'm listening to my family but i'm

3464
02:26:33,110 --> 02:26:31,840
also watching this thing and i'm

3465
02:26:34,710 --> 02:26:33,120
thinking is that a blimp

3466
02:26:37,270 --> 02:26:34,720
but wait a minute because i used to live

3467
02:26:39,270 --> 02:26:37,280
in in uh rancho palos verdes next to

3468
02:26:42,230 --> 02:26:39,280
carson where the goodyear blimp parks

3469
02:26:42,790 --> 02:26:42,240
and i know that the blimp takes off and

3470
02:26:45,510 --> 02:26:42,800
lands

3471
02:26:46,150 --> 02:26:45,520
at an angle and this thing was going

3472
02:26:49,349 --> 02:26:46,160
straight

3473
02:26:51,670 --> 02:26:49,359
up so i'm like i couldn't not watch this

3474
02:26:54,630 --> 02:26:51,680
thing as i'm listening to my family

3475
02:26:55,910 --> 02:26:54,640
and then next thing i know it rises up

3476
02:26:59,510 --> 02:26:55,920
and it

3477
02:27:02,309 --> 02:26:59,520
shoots up at an angle that like

3478
02:27:03,270 --> 02:27:02,319
picture a clock so it moves up from six

3479
02:27:06,710 --> 02:27:03,280
o'clock

3480
02:27:10,389 --> 02:27:06,720
to the center of the clock and then it

3481
02:27:12,790 --> 02:27:10,399
up at 11 o'clock so a really

3482
02:27:14,070 --> 02:27:12,800
weird angle for something that is of a

3483
02:27:17,110 --> 02:27:14,080
vertical

3484
02:27:21,830 --> 02:27:17,120
um tic tac shape

3485
02:27:23,990 --> 02:27:21,840
and it went so fast it's like a cartoon

3486
02:27:26,230 --> 02:27:24,000
there was a cloud that it passed and the

3487
02:27:28,950 --> 02:27:26,240
cloud went poof

3488
02:27:30,070 --> 02:27:28,960
like a wildy coyote cartoon like you

3489
02:27:33,830 --> 02:27:30,080
know a little bit

3490
02:27:36,150 --> 02:27:33,840
like that it's like

3491
02:27:37,990 --> 02:27:36,160
and again this is what the phenomenon

3492
02:27:39,349 --> 02:27:38,000
does you're talking your family's

3493
02:27:40,389 --> 02:27:39,359
talking to you it's a serious family

3494
02:27:47,110 --> 02:27:40,399
conversation

3495
02:27:53,910 --> 02:27:50,790
i couldn't do it i couldn't do it but

3496
02:27:55,349 --> 02:27:53,920
and then now my my wheels are spinning

3497
02:27:57,349 --> 02:27:55,359
every time i think of that like what the

3498
02:28:00,309 --> 02:27:57,359
heck was that thing

3499
02:28:01,590 --> 02:28:00,319
that's how it goes yeah just for you and

3500
02:28:06,469 --> 02:28:01,600
uh

3501
02:28:08,070 --> 02:28:06,479
i know that you don't have to work

3502
02:28:09,510 --> 02:28:08,080
tomorrow you don't you know you don't

3503
02:28:10,950 --> 02:28:09,520
have to deal with your kids

3504
02:28:13,190 --> 02:28:10,960
in the morning you don't have anything

3505
02:28:15,590 --> 02:28:13,200
planned so we're going to go straight

3506
02:28:19,590 --> 02:28:15,600
into overtime tonight because

3507
02:28:22,710 --> 02:28:19,600
um i want to go into

3508
02:28:26,070 --> 02:28:22,720
uh red ridge and the thing is as

3509
02:28:28,950 --> 02:28:26,080
as as pine ridge or pine ridge

3510
02:28:29,990 --> 02:28:28,960
so many things happen there but i want

3511
02:28:32,710 --> 02:28:30,000
to try to

3512
02:28:33,750 --> 02:28:32,720
get as much in as we can in the next

3513
02:28:36,710 --> 02:28:33,760
segment

3514
02:28:38,070 --> 02:28:36,720
um okay a lot of our friends were there

3515
02:28:39,830 --> 02:28:38,080
um

3516
02:28:41,670 --> 02:28:39,840
they won't mind that we mention their

3517
02:28:43,429 --> 02:28:41,680
names and and we'll do that when we come

3518
02:28:46,870 --> 02:28:43,439
back everybody but

3519
02:28:49,349 --> 02:28:46,880
um those experiences

3520
02:28:51,190 --> 02:28:49,359
uh that went down there i wish we had

3521
02:28:52,469 --> 02:28:51,200
another three four hours and we can go

3522
02:28:55,670 --> 02:28:52,479
through it all

3523
02:28:58,309 --> 02:28:55,680
but uh that must have been uh for

3524
02:29:00,790 --> 02:28:58,319
all of you one of the most incredible uh

3525
02:29:03,270 --> 02:29:00,800
weekends of your life

3526
02:29:04,150 --> 02:29:03,280
that set me on a life-changing

3527
02:29:05,510 --> 02:29:04,160
trajectory

3528
02:29:08,550 --> 02:29:05,520
same with whitley he'll say the same

3529
02:29:11,590 --> 02:29:08,560
thing and and why do you think

3530
02:29:13,429 --> 02:29:11,600
life-changing right right um there's a

3531
02:29:15,830 --> 02:29:13,439
lot of elements here let me look at the

3532
02:29:19,349 --> 02:29:15,840
clock okay we've got a couple of minutes

3533
02:29:21,190 --> 02:29:19,359
do you think it's the location

3534
02:29:22,550 --> 02:29:21,200
do you think it's the indigenous

3535
02:29:25,429 --> 02:29:22,560
cultures

3536
02:29:27,110 --> 02:29:25,439
do you think it's the group of people

3537
02:29:30,150 --> 02:29:27,120
that are there

3538
02:29:33,910 --> 02:29:30,160
do you think that it was you

3539
02:29:40,710 --> 02:29:37,750
it's a total it was the combination

3540
02:29:41,910 --> 02:29:40,720
added to that that particular weekend

3541
02:29:44,469 --> 02:29:41,920
there was some sort of

3542
02:29:45,830 --> 02:29:44,479
prophecy about energetic ley lines in

3543
02:29:47,750 --> 02:29:45,840
the veil thinning

3544
02:29:50,790 --> 02:29:47,760
on that week that we which we found out

3545
02:29:53,270 --> 02:29:50,800
later there was the fact that you have

3546
02:29:54,070 --> 02:29:53,280
the pine ridge reservation you know

3547
02:29:56,230 --> 02:29:54,080
right where

3548
02:29:57,110 --> 02:29:56,240
wounded knee the wounded knee massacre

3549
02:29:59,750 --> 02:29:57,120
happened

3550
02:30:00,150 --> 02:29:59,760
there's a lot of trauma in on that you

3551
02:30:03,429 --> 02:30:00,160
know

3552
02:30:04,070 --> 02:30:03,439
remnants of trauma on that land it is a

3553
02:30:07,190 --> 02:30:04,080
very

3554
02:30:08,950 --> 02:30:07,200
spiritual high energetic place

3555
02:30:11,110 --> 02:30:08,960
i'm sure i haven't checked but that's

3556
02:30:14,750 --> 02:30:11,120
got to be some sort of ley line

3557
02:30:17,990 --> 02:30:14,760
because we were all having

3558
02:30:21,110 --> 02:30:18,000
insane experiences that dip

3559
02:30:24,389 --> 02:30:21,120
i mean i'm going to tell you this

3560
02:30:27,429 --> 02:30:24,399
i saw a bean i saw a being

3561
02:30:29,910 --> 02:30:27,439
not lucinda medium i'm perceiving the

3562
02:30:33,750 --> 02:30:29,920
energy of this little

3563
02:30:35,830 --> 02:30:33,760
humanoid creature i saw the humanoid

3564
02:30:39,510 --> 02:30:35,840
creature walk with my own

3565
02:30:44,550 --> 02:30:42,950
nothing's going to top that i i it's uh

3566
02:30:46,070 --> 02:30:44,560
we'll we'll tell the story everybody

3567
02:30:48,630 --> 02:30:46,080
when we come back and

3568
02:30:49,590 --> 02:30:48,640
uh we'll we'll have to do the condensed

3569
02:30:51,510 --> 02:30:49,600
version

3570
02:30:53,270 --> 02:30:51,520
because there are a couple of other

3571
02:30:55,429 --> 02:30:53,280
things that went down

3572
02:30:56,870 --> 02:30:55,439
that uh i i just want to have some fun

3573
02:30:58,469 --> 02:30:56,880
with and and talk about

3574
02:31:00,309 --> 02:30:58,479
so let's take our break right here this

3575
02:31:01,110 --> 02:31:00,319
is fade to black our guest tonight

3576
02:31:03,510 --> 02:31:01,120
lucinda

3577
02:31:05,670 --> 02:31:03,520
morrell i am your host jimmy church

3578
02:31:07,190 --> 02:31:05,680
we'll be right back for overtime

3579
02:31:09,270 --> 02:31:07,200
right after this short break you can

3580
02:31:11,830 --> 02:31:09,280
follow me on twitter at j church radio

3581
02:31:13,349 --> 02:31:11,840
you can follow lucinda she's all over

3582
02:31:14,309 --> 02:31:13,359
twitter tonight in the fade to black

3583
02:31:29,200 --> 02:31:14,319
feed

3584
02:31:39,910 --> 02:31:29,210
ftb i'll be right back stay with us

3585
02:31:44,230 --> 02:31:42,309
hey what up y'all biblical fox here and

3586
02:31:49,429 --> 02:31:44,240
you are listening to my boy

3587
02:31:59,990 --> 02:31:52,710
despite popular opinion reading a book

3588
02:32:03,750 --> 02:32:01,750
this is jimmy church of fade to black

3589
02:32:06,950 --> 02:32:03,760
and i take life change t

3590
02:32:07,670 --> 02:32:06,960
supplements every single day it's what i

3591
02:32:10,190 --> 02:32:07,680
do

3592
02:32:13,830 --> 02:32:10,200
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3593
02:32:18,550 --> 02:32:15,990
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3594
02:32:19,830 --> 02:32:18,560
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3595
02:32:22,070 --> 02:32:19,840
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3596
02:32:23,429 --> 02:32:22,080
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3597
02:32:26,710 --> 02:32:23,439
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3598
02:32:29,670 --> 02:32:26,720
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3599
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3600
02:32:34,309 --> 02:32:31,359
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3601
02:32:36,389 --> 02:32:34,319
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3602
02:32:39,590 --> 02:32:36,399
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3603
02:32:42,389 --> 02:32:39,600
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3604
02:32:45,030 --> 02:32:42,399
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3605
02:32:48,710 --> 02:32:45,040
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3606
02:32:51,270 --> 02:32:48,720
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3607
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3662
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3663
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host jimmy church i guess tonight

3664
02:35:27,030 --> 02:35:24,840
lucinda morrell we're going into

3665
02:35:29,670 --> 02:35:27,040
overtime our meals jimmy church

3666
02:35:31,830 --> 02:35:29,680
on the game changer network and ktra the

3667
02:35:33,270 --> 02:35:31,840
planet and

3668
02:35:35,910 --> 02:35:33,280
this is always the part of the show

3669
02:35:40,630 --> 02:35:35,920
where i'd like to have some fun

3670
02:35:42,750 --> 02:35:40,640
these uh these next few

3671
02:35:43,910 --> 02:35:42,760
how do i say this these next few

3672
02:35:47,349 --> 02:35:43,920
experiences

3673
02:35:47,910 --> 02:35:47,359
of lucinda's i'm gonna set this up

3674
02:35:51,030 --> 02:35:47,920
somewhat

3675
02:35:54,309 --> 02:35:51,040
but are all very intense

3676
02:35:57,670 --> 02:35:54,319
but they're also pretty fun and uh

3677
02:36:00,870 --> 02:35:57,680
now she just talked about this thing

3678
02:36:04,309 --> 02:36:00,880
this being that she saw walking

3679
02:36:05,429 --> 02:36:04,319
so lucinda if i may so we can shorten

3680
02:36:06,950 --> 02:36:05,439
this up so we can get the whole

3681
02:36:10,630 --> 02:36:06,960
experience in

3682
02:36:12,550 --> 02:36:10,640
um uh i'll set this up uh to the best of

3683
02:36:13,750 --> 02:36:12,560
my knowledge and if i make a mistake

3684
02:36:16,630 --> 02:36:13,760
don't worry about it

3685
02:36:17,270 --> 02:36:16,640
but you went out to go and do some sky

3686
02:36:20,389 --> 02:36:17,280
watching

3687
02:36:21,110 --> 02:36:20,399
you're with a group of people and uh you

3688
02:36:24,630 --> 02:36:21,120
went to this

3689
02:36:25,590 --> 02:36:24,640
special location uh to to go see some

3690
02:36:28,790 --> 02:36:25,600
stuff

3691
02:36:31,990 --> 02:36:28,800
after that you're in uh

3692
02:36:35,030 --> 02:36:32,000
the van heading back to uh

3693
02:36:35,429 --> 02:36:35,040
the complex the buildings right okay so

3694
02:36:38,710 --> 02:36:35,439
now

3695
02:36:42,309 --> 02:36:38,720
you're on a road um how many people are

3696
02:36:45,910 --> 02:36:44,870
it's me and one other person it's you

3697
02:36:50,550 --> 02:36:45,920
and one other person

3698
02:36:53,990 --> 02:36:50,560
okay and uh you're driving up uh

3699
02:36:56,309 --> 02:36:54,000
uh a road we

3700
02:36:57,670 --> 02:36:56,319
go go ahead yeah well okay hold on i

3701
02:37:00,389 --> 02:36:57,680
need to clarify

3702
02:37:01,830 --> 02:37:00,399
we we went for a sundance so sundance is

3703
02:37:04,950 --> 02:37:01,840
a whole other story in its own

3704
02:37:08,389 --> 02:37:04,960
yeah yeah sacred dakota ceremony i i

3705
02:37:11,110 --> 02:37:08,399
i needed i'd need two hours

3706
02:37:12,309 --> 02:37:11,120
it's the night of sundance after

3707
02:37:14,469 --> 02:37:12,319
sundance we're going to do

3708
02:37:16,550 --> 02:37:14,479
a sky watch in the badlands because

3709
02:37:20,469 --> 02:37:16,560
that's part of the conference

3710
02:37:20,950 --> 02:37:20,479
um i have to take me and my driver i

3711
02:37:24,469 --> 02:37:20,960
have

3712
02:37:27,190 --> 02:37:24,479
um yvonne and and whitley

3713
02:37:28,070 --> 02:37:27,200
and so they need to i don't know if

3714
02:37:29,429 --> 02:37:28,080
whitley was gone but

3715
02:37:31,830 --> 02:37:29,439
i needed to take yvonne back to the

3716
02:37:32,870 --> 02:37:31,840
hotel she was done after sundance is

3717
02:37:34,469 --> 02:37:32,880
just enough

3718
02:37:36,309 --> 02:37:34,479
she's got to go she needs a glass of

3719
02:37:37,830 --> 02:37:36,319
wine she needs to chill

3720
02:37:39,429 --> 02:37:37,840
cuz and i don't blame her because that

3721
02:37:43,349 --> 02:37:39,439
was intense

3722
02:37:44,790 --> 02:37:43,359
so i get lost from the group that's

3723
02:37:48,230 --> 02:37:44,800
doing the sky watch

3724
02:37:51,990 --> 02:37:48,240
in the in in the badlands

3725
02:37:55,270 --> 02:37:52,000
so my driver who's a local lakota

3726
02:37:56,150 --> 02:37:55,280
of pine ridge says well i'll take you to

3727
02:37:59,270 --> 02:37:56,160
our spot

3728
02:37:59,750 --> 02:37:59,280
where we do our ceremonies and he takes

3729
02:38:02,630 --> 02:37:59,760
me

3730
02:38:03,990 --> 02:38:02,640
by myself to this other sacred spot in

3731
02:38:07,590 --> 02:38:04,000
the badlands

3732
02:38:11,349 --> 02:38:07,600
and we do a ceremony there and

3733
02:38:13,270 --> 02:38:11,359
they if you know lakota you know lakota

3734
02:38:14,550 --> 02:38:13,280
people have a great sense of humor and

3735
02:38:16,870 --> 02:38:14,560
they're very goofy

3736
02:38:18,630 --> 02:38:16,880
and i love them to pieces so he does

3737
02:38:19,990 --> 02:38:18,640
this thing kind of picking on me which i

3738
02:38:21,030 --> 02:38:20,000
learned later kind of making fun of me

3739
02:38:25,510 --> 02:38:21,040
he says

3740
02:38:27,670 --> 02:38:25,520
lakota

3741
02:38:28,710 --> 02:38:27,680
and i say the prayer and the code like

3742
02:38:30,309 --> 02:38:28,720
repeat after me

3743
02:38:32,230 --> 02:38:30,319
say blah blah blah blah blah blah blah

3744
02:38:34,389 --> 02:38:32,240
and i do this ceremony

3745
02:38:36,309 --> 02:38:34,399
and the badlands with this you know with

3746
02:38:38,710 --> 02:38:36,319
the and you know the whole thing this

3747
02:38:41,030 --> 02:38:38,720
this um sages burning all this kind of

3748
02:38:44,150 --> 02:38:41,040
stuff the ceremony

3749
02:38:44,870 --> 02:38:44,160
then we're driving back and i say by the

3750
02:38:46,150 --> 02:38:44,880
way

3751
02:38:47,750 --> 02:38:46,160
what was that prayer was that like a

3752
02:38:48,950 --> 02:38:47,760
gratitude prayer or something about and

3753
02:38:51,990 --> 02:38:48,960
he goes

3754
02:38:55,990 --> 02:38:52,000
oh no now you're gonna see them

3755
02:38:58,230 --> 02:38:56,000
and i say what and i think he's joking

3756
02:38:59,670 --> 02:38:58,240
and he goes no well you know you guys

3757
02:39:02,070 --> 02:38:59,680
are all ufo people

3758
02:39:03,270 --> 02:39:02,080
and contactee people la la la so you

3759
02:39:04,630 --> 02:39:03,280
just said a prayer

3760
02:39:06,710 --> 02:39:04,640
that they're going to show themselves to

3761
02:39:10,469 --> 02:39:06,720
you and i

3762
02:39:13,270 --> 02:39:10,479
am just kind of like okay we get back to

3763
02:39:13,910 --> 02:39:13,280
the the place where we're staying um

3764
02:39:15,990 --> 02:39:13,920
shout out to

3765
02:39:17,590 --> 02:39:16,000
becky and dallas chief eagle and mia

3766
02:39:19,349 --> 02:39:17,600
faraletto so we

3767
02:39:20,870 --> 02:39:19,359
get back to the place we're staying and

3768
02:39:22,790 --> 02:39:20,880
we are so ramped up

3769
02:39:23,990 --> 02:39:22,800
i'm with a bunch of women and we all

3770
02:39:26,550 --> 02:39:24,000
have our um sleeping

3771
02:39:27,349 --> 02:39:26,560
bags and we just we cannot sleep so we

3772
02:39:29,349 --> 02:39:27,359
go down

3773
02:39:31,429 --> 02:39:29,359
where the forest area is and there's a

3774
02:39:32,309 --> 02:39:31,439
teepee um there's a couple of teepees

3775
02:39:34,550 --> 02:39:32,319
set up

3776
02:39:35,750 --> 02:39:34,560
and an epi which is a sweat lodge and

3777
02:39:38,870 --> 02:39:35,760
there's a big fire

3778
02:39:42,070 --> 02:39:38,880
and so we have a bonfire and we talk

3779
02:39:43,349 --> 02:39:42,080
into the night now it's two o'clock in

3780
02:39:46,150 --> 02:39:43,359
the morning

3781
02:39:47,429 --> 02:39:46,160
and the one of the the locals that's

3782
02:39:50,550 --> 02:39:47,439
there to help

3783
02:39:51,750 --> 02:39:50,560
has a truck so he says okay for the the

3784
02:39:53,910 --> 02:39:51,760
three of us left

3785
02:39:55,750 --> 02:39:53,920
one of them is falling asleep he says

3786
02:39:57,670 --> 02:39:55,760
all right just jump in the truck and

3787
02:39:59,270 --> 02:39:57,680
i'll drive you back up to the house

3788
02:40:00,870 --> 02:39:59,280
because it's a trek you know we've gone

3789
02:40:03,590 --> 02:40:00,880
down the property into kind of the

3790
02:40:05,750 --> 02:40:03,600
foresty area to the edge of the forest

3791
02:40:08,150 --> 02:40:05,760
and he says i'll drive you back up so

3792
02:40:09,429 --> 02:40:08,160
now i'm sitting in the middle of a truck

3793
02:40:10,790 --> 02:40:09,439
okay think of the bed of the truck

3794
02:40:11,510 --> 02:40:10,800
sleepy person is in the back of the

3795
02:40:14,550 --> 02:40:11,520
truck and she's

3796
02:40:16,309 --> 02:40:14,560
just crashed out and now it's my driver

3797
02:40:18,469 --> 02:40:16,319
and i'm sitting in the middle and

3798
02:40:21,510 --> 02:40:18,479
there's a woman next to me

3799
02:40:23,429 --> 02:40:21,520
and she's looking at something

3800
02:40:24,710 --> 02:40:23,439
and the driver's doing the thing of like

3801
02:40:26,230 --> 02:40:24,720
you know when you're driving an older

3802
02:40:27,510 --> 02:40:26,240
car before backup cameras

3803
02:40:29,429 --> 02:40:27,520
you do the thing where you have your

3804
02:40:30,150 --> 02:40:29,439
left hand and the steering wheel and

3805
02:40:31,990 --> 02:40:30,160
you're like

3806
02:40:33,990 --> 02:40:32,000
rolling it and you put your right hand

3807
02:40:35,269 --> 02:40:34,000
like behind you know behind the seat

3808
02:40:38,630 --> 02:40:35,279
because you're looking back

3809
02:40:40,150 --> 02:40:38,640
to to make that three point back turn

3810
02:40:41,670 --> 02:40:40,160
and as so now i'm the only person

3811
02:40:45,670 --> 02:40:41,680
looking forward and

3812
02:40:46,950 --> 02:40:45,680
as i'm looking forward walking the the

3813
02:40:50,630 --> 02:40:46,960
headlights

3814
02:40:53,990 --> 02:40:50,640
shine across this forest

3815
02:40:55,110 --> 02:40:54,000
and in the headlights i see walking by

3816
02:41:00,830 --> 02:40:55,120
the creek

3817
02:41:09,349 --> 02:41:04,230
little humanoid

3818
02:41:13,670 --> 02:41:09,359
a man being

3819
02:41:16,389 --> 02:41:13,680
that catches himself in a light

3820
02:41:18,070 --> 02:41:16,399
and is just walking at a normal pace

3821
02:41:20,389 --> 02:41:18,080
looks over to the light

3822
02:41:22,150 --> 02:41:20,399
when it shines on him so now we're kind

3823
02:41:24,870 --> 02:41:22,160
of we're not making direct eye

3824
02:41:25,670 --> 02:41:24,880
contact but i'm seeing his face full on

3825
02:41:32,230 --> 02:41:25,680
and

3826
02:41:34,309 --> 02:41:32,240
he like scurries a little forward

3827
02:41:36,150 --> 02:41:34,319
to get into the shadow away from the

3828
02:41:39,750 --> 02:41:36,160
headlight

3829
02:41:41,830 --> 02:41:39,760
and i say oh my god did you see that

3830
02:41:43,750 --> 02:41:41,840
like i i just you know i said it louder

3831
02:41:47,110 --> 02:41:43,760
but i was just like

3832
02:41:48,710 --> 02:41:47,120
holy s what was that who saw that

3833
02:41:50,550 --> 02:41:48,720
did you see that did you see that did

3834
02:41:54,710 --> 02:41:50,560
you see that

3835
02:41:58,630 --> 02:41:54,720
and no one else saw it

3836
02:41:59,910 --> 02:41:58,640
and now i'm left with seeing that thing

3837
02:42:02,389 --> 02:41:59,920
i don't want to say thing it was a

3838
02:42:05,349 --> 02:42:02,399
little being it was a little nature

3839
02:42:06,870 --> 02:42:05,359
not a nature spirit i think it was an

3840
02:42:10,070 --> 02:42:06,880
elemental being

3841
02:42:13,190 --> 02:42:10,080
i think this is what is happening

3842
02:42:16,230 --> 02:42:13,200
how tall was it um

3843
02:42:18,309 --> 02:42:16,240
about two feet two feet no more

3844
02:42:19,349 --> 02:42:18,319
no more than two feet because it was

3845
02:42:21,670 --> 02:42:19,359
against

3846
02:42:22,389 --> 02:42:21,680
okay so on the property there's a little

3847
02:42:24,950 --> 02:42:22,399
creek

3848
02:42:26,710 --> 02:42:24,960
okay so think of like a ditch with a

3849
02:42:29,030 --> 02:42:26,720
little creek waterway

3850
02:42:30,070 --> 02:42:29,040
and it's full of green plants because of

3851
02:42:31,110 --> 02:42:30,080
course everything's going to grow there

3852
02:42:33,030 --> 02:42:31,120
because it's a creek

3853
02:42:35,429 --> 02:42:33,040
and so what they did is they made a

3854
02:42:36,790 --> 02:42:35,439
little fence along it so that you don't

3855
02:42:38,230 --> 02:42:36,800
fall through the bushes and or think

3856
02:42:39,110 --> 02:42:38,240
it's just tall grass and fall in the

3857
02:42:41,750 --> 02:42:39,120
creek

3858
02:42:42,150 --> 02:42:41,760
and then it the little gates or the

3859
02:42:44,630 --> 02:42:42,160
little

3860
02:42:45,830 --> 02:42:44,640
fence that they built takes you to like

3861
02:42:48,070 --> 02:42:45,840
a little overpass

3862
02:42:49,110 --> 02:42:48,080
bridge that they built and right there

3863
02:42:51,030 --> 02:42:49,120
at the bridge

3864
02:42:52,630 --> 02:42:51,040
is what they call what i call a fair

3865
02:42:54,070 --> 02:42:52,640
tree but they said

3866
02:42:56,950 --> 02:42:54,080
that's a special tree because it was

3867
02:42:58,710 --> 02:42:56,960
struck by lightning and it has a hole

3868
02:43:00,870 --> 02:42:58,720
and they said that's where the little

3869
02:43:03,830 --> 02:43:00,880
people live

3870
02:43:05,349 --> 02:43:03,840
and i found this out the next day when i

3871
02:43:08,070 --> 02:43:05,359
was just like

3872
02:43:08,870 --> 02:43:08,080
local people what the heck did i just

3873
02:43:13,590 --> 02:43:08,880
see

3874
02:43:20,070 --> 02:43:13,600
and how uh clothes naked

3875
02:43:23,670 --> 02:43:23,269
it was green it was green and it's and

3876
02:43:26,710 --> 02:43:23,680
its

3877
02:43:31,110 --> 02:43:26,720
limbs looked like

3878
02:43:34,950 --> 02:43:31,120
mossy branches and the only thing

3879
02:43:38,309 --> 02:43:34,960
it okay um like group

3880
02:43:38,630 --> 02:43:38,319
it walked like groot because the limbs

3881
02:43:42,469 --> 02:43:38,640
were

3882
02:43:45,830 --> 02:43:42,479
long and gangly okay so think of this

3883
02:43:49,190 --> 02:43:45,840
the profile of this two foot

3884
02:43:49,990 --> 02:43:49,200
green long limbs those think fingers

3885
02:43:53,269 --> 02:43:50,000
like branches

3886
02:43:57,269 --> 02:43:53,279
like pointy branches almost and limbs

3887
02:44:00,630 --> 02:43:57,279
longer than a human's okay and it

3888
02:44:02,550 --> 02:44:00,640
was like gangling is the the best word i

3889
02:44:03,990 --> 02:44:02,560
can think of and it was just walking but

3890
02:44:07,030 --> 02:44:04,000
the face

3891
02:44:09,510 --> 02:44:07,040
was wrinkled and looked like that of an

3892
02:44:13,030 --> 02:44:09,520
old man like when you see the pictures

3893
02:44:20,870 --> 02:44:18,630
how far away was he i mean if you could

3894
02:44:23,670 --> 02:44:20,880
see wrinkles on his face he's not that

3895
02:44:31,670 --> 02:44:27,349
i know um 20 feet

3896
02:44:35,349 --> 02:44:31,680
oh he's right there oh that's crazy town

3897
02:44:36,870 --> 02:44:35,359
yes and this is why in my logical mind

3898
02:44:38,870 --> 02:44:36,880
jimmy

3899
02:44:40,870 --> 02:44:38,880
there's no way i could have not seen it

3900
02:44:44,309 --> 02:44:40,880
i was wearing my glasses

3901
02:44:47,910 --> 02:44:44,319
i it was you know i i got nothing

3902
02:44:51,910 --> 02:44:51,190
um okay i had to i had to do an offering

3903
02:44:55,910 --> 02:44:51,920
the next day

3904
02:44:59,030 --> 02:44:55,920
i bet you did that is such a crazy

3905
02:45:01,670 --> 02:44:59,040
fun encounter um

3906
02:45:03,110 --> 02:45:01,680
a little bit of jealousy there i i wish

3907
02:45:05,830 --> 02:45:03,120
i would have seen

3908
02:45:06,230 --> 02:45:05,840
uh the little dude the little green guy

3909
02:45:10,469 --> 02:45:06,240
um

3910
02:45:13,990 --> 02:45:10,479
i was told i was told the name of them

3911
02:45:17,990 --> 02:45:14,000
i was told not to speak it because

3912
02:45:21,990 --> 02:45:18,000
if you do you will call them to you

3913
02:45:25,910 --> 02:45:22,000
oh man and they yeah

3914
02:45:29,110 --> 02:45:25,920
i want to know okay um

3915
02:45:31,349 --> 02:45:29,120
now next um and

3916
02:45:32,230 --> 02:45:31,359
again there's so much detail to this and

3917
02:45:35,429 --> 02:45:32,240
there's so much

3918
02:45:37,750 --> 02:45:35,439
backstory to it um

3919
02:45:39,349 --> 02:45:37,760
but uh let's talk about bigfoot and

3920
02:45:42,870 --> 02:45:39,359
we've got uh

3921
02:45:44,710 --> 02:45:42,880
enough time to get this in if we get to

3922
02:45:47,349 --> 02:45:44,720
the juicy stuff

3923
02:45:48,950 --> 02:45:47,359
and and now the reason why there's so

3924
02:45:52,070 --> 02:45:48,960
much backstory

3925
02:45:54,230 --> 02:45:52,080
is this is a multi-day event

3926
02:45:55,750 --> 02:45:54,240
there's a sweat lodge that is involved

3927
02:45:56,469 --> 02:45:55,760
there's all the ceremonies that go

3928
02:45:59,030 --> 02:45:56,479
through that

3929
02:45:59,830 --> 02:45:59,040
there's one two three four layers of

3930
02:46:03,030 --> 02:45:59,840
things

3931
02:46:05,349 --> 02:46:03,040
you're being initiated um and

3932
02:46:06,870 --> 02:46:05,359
and you with a you know a whole group of

3933
02:46:09,269 --> 02:46:06,880
people and you're going through

3934
02:46:10,070 --> 02:46:09,279
all of this there's so much to that and

3935
02:46:14,150 --> 02:46:10,080
it's so much

3936
02:46:15,670 --> 02:46:14,160
fun it i i don't know how you endured it

3937
02:46:17,269 --> 02:46:15,680
um i don't know if i could ever do a

3938
02:46:18,309 --> 02:46:17,279
sweat lodge i don't i don't think

3939
02:46:21,110 --> 02:46:18,319
physically

3940
02:46:22,309 --> 02:46:21,120
i can go through it's about mad respect

3941
02:46:26,389 --> 02:46:22,319
but

3942
02:46:28,710 --> 02:46:26,399
um how do we do this do we do this

3943
02:46:30,870 --> 02:46:28,720
from the inside of the sweat lodge do we

3944
02:46:32,389 --> 02:46:30,880
start there first

3945
02:46:34,309 --> 02:46:32,399
because there were things going on

3946
02:46:37,190 --> 02:46:34,319
outside with other people

3947
02:46:38,950 --> 02:46:37,200
but there's stuff that's going on inside

3948
02:46:42,150 --> 02:46:38,960
with you

3949
02:46:45,429 --> 02:46:42,160
um you know what let's start inside uh

3950
02:46:48,389 --> 02:46:45,439
where everything started to get strange

3951
02:46:49,269 --> 02:46:48,399
well yes okay and and just a quick

3952
02:46:51,349 --> 02:46:49,279
backstory

3953
02:46:53,269 --> 02:46:51,359
when i got to the property which is

3954
02:46:54,389 --> 02:46:53,279
before the ceremony and everything okay

3955
02:46:57,110 --> 02:46:54,399
everything's gonna go down

3956
02:46:58,710 --> 02:46:57,120
friday night but on thursday when i got

3957
02:47:00,790 --> 02:46:58,720
there it's like four o'clock and i'm

3958
02:47:05,269 --> 02:47:00,800
looking out into the forest by myself

3959
02:47:09,349 --> 02:47:07,670
and you asked and you didn't you ask if

3960
02:47:13,030 --> 02:47:09,359
there's cattle

3961
02:47:15,349 --> 02:47:13,040
right i said i said oh you have buffalo

3962
02:47:17,110 --> 02:47:15,359
on the planet yeah buffalo that was

3963
02:47:19,269 --> 02:47:17,120
because you know i thought buffalo it's

3964
02:47:20,150 --> 02:47:19,279
lakota sacred and they do have buffalo

3965
02:47:23,670 --> 02:47:20,160
room here

3966
02:47:26,309 --> 02:47:23,680
so jimmy's cracking up right now

3967
02:47:27,030 --> 02:47:26,319
but it's funny and and the thing is

3968
02:47:30,150 --> 02:47:27,040
that's a

3969
02:47:33,349 --> 02:47:30,160
natural question right yes

3970
02:47:35,830 --> 02:47:33,359
okay and then you find out well

3971
02:47:37,750 --> 02:47:35,840
there's buffalo but it's 8 000 miles

3972
02:47:39,110 --> 02:47:37,760
away

3973
02:47:40,630 --> 02:47:39,120
it's there like there's no buffalo in

3974
02:47:41,910 --> 02:47:40,640
the property first the horses would be

3975
02:47:43,190 --> 02:47:41,920
completely freaking out yeah that's

3976
02:47:44,389 --> 02:47:43,200
right so now we're in the sweat lodge

3977
02:47:45,990 --> 02:47:44,399
it's friday night you're in the sweat

3978
02:47:47,670 --> 02:47:46,000
lodge you have to do the sweat lodge as

3979
02:47:49,190 --> 02:47:47,680
a purification because the next day

3980
02:47:51,030 --> 02:47:49,200
we're gonna go to sundance and that is

3981
02:47:52,230 --> 02:47:51,040
the ceremony of all ceremonies there was

3982
02:47:54,309 --> 02:47:52,240
a ufo there

3983
02:47:55,510 --> 02:47:54,319
everybody saw it and that's just how it

3984
02:47:56,070 --> 02:47:55,520
is but at sundance you can't have your

3985
02:47:59,030 --> 02:47:56,080
phone

3986
02:48:00,070 --> 02:47:59,040
so done we're in the sweat lodge friday

3987
02:48:03,910 --> 02:48:00,080
night

3988
02:48:05,510 --> 02:48:03,920
i am kind of enduring the sweat lodge

3989
02:48:07,590 --> 02:48:05,520
and it's getting a little bit too

3990
02:48:09,429 --> 02:48:07,600
intense so i just pop out of my body

3991
02:48:10,950 --> 02:48:09,439
it's something i do sometimes it's a

3992
02:48:11,990 --> 02:48:10,960
remote viewing thing it's something

3993
02:48:14,070 --> 02:48:12,000
people do

3994
02:48:16,230 --> 02:48:14,080
when i pop out of my body i see that

3995
02:48:19,750 --> 02:48:16,240
behind me outside the sweat lodge

3996
02:48:23,990 --> 02:48:19,760
is this huge entity

3997
02:48:27,990 --> 02:48:24,000
that is pacing the sweat lodge behind us

3998
02:48:30,389 --> 02:48:28,000
i perceive it it is of neutral energy

3999
02:48:31,190 --> 02:48:30,399
it's not bad it's not good it's just

4000
02:48:35,349 --> 02:48:31,200
there

4001
02:48:38,710 --> 02:48:35,359
i say fine and i let it go

4002
02:48:41,349 --> 02:48:38,720
later come to find that

4003
02:48:42,790 --> 02:48:41,359
the fire keepers the local dudes that

4004
02:48:44,710 --> 02:48:42,800
are doing the fire

4005
02:48:46,309 --> 02:48:44,720
one of them came into the sweat lodge

4006
02:48:47,990 --> 02:48:46,319
for the last round

4007
02:48:49,429 --> 02:48:48,000
and later i talked to him and he goes we

4008
02:48:51,590 --> 02:48:49,439
were terrified

4009
02:48:53,349 --> 02:48:51,600
he goes there was a big foot right

4010
02:48:55,590 --> 02:48:53,359
behind the sweat lodge

4011
02:48:57,670 --> 02:48:55,600
right with you guys and i he's i

4012
02:49:00,309 --> 02:48:57,680
couldn't i couldn't handle it

4013
02:49:01,510 --> 02:49:00,319
and he's and they were mad at us he he

4014
02:49:04,070 --> 02:49:01,520
expressed

4015
02:49:05,670 --> 02:49:04,080
anger because he's like you know my

4016
02:49:08,710 --> 02:49:05,680
father was a cop on the rez

4017
02:49:10,710 --> 02:49:08,720
and he said they always came together

4018
02:49:11,750 --> 02:49:10,720
the calls of bigfoot and the calls for

4019
02:49:13,750 --> 02:49:11,760
lights in the sky

4020
02:49:14,870 --> 02:49:13,760
they always came together on the for the

4021
02:49:16,790 --> 02:49:14,880
res police

4022
02:49:18,070 --> 02:49:16,800
and he goes and you guys come in here

4023
02:49:20,070 --> 02:49:18,080
and you're bringing this stuff

4024
02:49:21,670 --> 02:49:20,080
and it makes me like he was very

4025
02:49:24,950 --> 02:49:21,680
unnerved by it when he said

4026
02:49:26,469 --> 02:49:24,960
what he means is you ufo people

4027
02:49:28,150 --> 02:49:26,479
yeah yeah cause we were there for this

4028
02:49:28,710 --> 02:49:28,160
ufo conference and he was just kind of

4029
02:49:32,309 --> 02:49:28,720
like

4030
02:49:35,269 --> 02:49:32,319
and then the next day there's

4031
02:49:37,110 --> 02:49:35,279
in the middle of sundance it's you know

4032
02:49:38,710 --> 02:49:37,120
if you have a phone at sundance it's

4033
02:49:40,309 --> 02:49:38,720
such a sacred ceremony

4034
02:49:42,469 --> 02:49:40,319
those people will drive you to the

4035
02:49:45,190 --> 02:49:42,479
reservation off the reservation

4036
02:49:46,469 --> 02:49:45,200
and leave you you do not bring any kind

4037
02:49:49,670 --> 02:49:46,479
of recording device to

4038
02:49:52,870 --> 02:49:49,680
a sundance it is super sacred and right

4039
02:49:56,150 --> 02:49:52,880
there jimmy asks whitley asked terry ask

4040
02:49:59,349 --> 02:49:56,160
yvonne huge ball

4041
02:49:59,990 --> 02:49:59,359
silver ball ufo right over the whole

4042
02:50:03,670 --> 02:50:00,000
thing

4043
02:50:06,230 --> 02:50:03,680
moving it was just

4044
02:50:07,190 --> 02:50:06,240
watching us everyone saw it everyone saw

4045
02:50:10,389 --> 02:50:07,200
it how long

4046
02:50:14,870 --> 02:50:10,399
did that ufo hang up there

4047
02:50:17,990 --> 02:50:14,880
hours yeah it's incredible

4048
02:50:19,510 --> 02:50:18,000
it's incredible and uh you know i've

4049
02:50:22,630 --> 02:50:19,520
spoken to everybody

4050
02:50:26,790 --> 02:50:22,640
uh about that weekend and

4051
02:50:28,550 --> 02:50:26,800
uh some smile but it was a it was a game

4052
02:50:33,690 --> 02:50:28,560
changer

4053
02:50:35,030 --> 02:50:33,700
now the other thing

4054
02:50:38,230 --> 02:50:35,040
[Music]

4055
02:50:40,150 --> 02:50:38,240
that i want to talk about is and this is

4056
02:50:41,110 --> 02:50:40,160
going to be strange for everybody but we

4057
02:50:43,349 --> 02:50:41,120
got a

4058
02:50:44,710 --> 02:50:43,359
we got enough time i think everybody can

4059
02:50:49,590 --> 02:50:44,720
understand

4060
02:50:53,110 --> 02:50:49,600
uh what happened uh next with lucinda

4061
02:50:57,030 --> 02:50:53,120
that's the painting okay so

4062
02:51:00,630 --> 02:50:57,040
we have how many okay so yeah exactly

4063
02:51:06,230 --> 02:51:00,640
um how many people um

4064
02:51:09,510 --> 02:51:08,710
it's a top floor it's a big think of a

4065
02:51:11,190 --> 02:51:09,520
big

4066
02:51:13,030 --> 02:51:11,200
think of how a basement would look where

4067
02:51:16,710 --> 02:51:13,040
you have this big open floor plan

4068
02:51:19,830 --> 02:51:16,720
right so but this is upstairs and there

4069
02:51:21,910 --> 02:51:19,840
is about one two three four

4070
02:51:22,870 --> 02:51:21,920
five there's a good eight people

4071
02:51:26,389 --> 02:51:22,880
sleeping

4072
02:51:28,309 --> 02:51:26,399
and pillows thrown over

4073
02:51:30,630 --> 02:51:28,319
this with jimmy was the very first night

4074
02:51:32,309 --> 02:51:30,640
i was there this is the first thing that

4075
02:51:34,469 --> 02:51:32,319
happened to me when i got there

4076
02:51:36,070 --> 02:51:34,479
and and so there's eight you're sleeping

4077
02:51:40,070 --> 02:51:36,080
with eight people

4078
02:51:40,790 --> 02:51:40,080
um i can imagine the excitement of the

4079
02:51:42,630 --> 02:51:40,800
weekend

4080
02:51:43,990 --> 02:51:42,640
uh you've got some very cool people

4081
02:51:47,590 --> 02:51:44,000
around you

4082
02:51:51,349 --> 02:51:47,600
but there was a painting on the wall

4083
02:51:58,230 --> 02:51:54,469
the painting on the wall was to

4084
02:52:01,590 --> 02:51:58,240
hoop dancers if you know about um

4085
02:52:03,030 --> 02:52:01,600
native dancing um there are hoop dancers

4086
02:52:04,309 --> 02:52:03,040
you guys have seen this if you've gone

4087
02:52:06,230 --> 02:52:04,319
to the grand canyon

4088
02:52:07,429 --> 02:52:06,240
um you know you they usually have these

4089
02:52:10,309 --> 02:52:07,439
little just you know little

4090
02:52:11,429 --> 02:52:10,319
events where they have hoop dancing um

4091
02:52:13,670 --> 02:52:11,439
think of like a lot of

4092
02:52:15,110 --> 02:52:13,680
like hula hoops kind of and then they

4093
02:52:15,830 --> 02:52:15,120
they intertwine them and they jump

4094
02:52:19,030 --> 02:52:15,840
inside of them

4095
02:52:22,389 --> 02:52:19,040
so there's a painting of two young men

4096
02:52:26,150 --> 02:52:22,399
and their hoops are kind of intertwined

4097
02:52:28,469 --> 02:52:26,160
above them and i get

4098
02:52:30,070 --> 02:52:28,479
to the upstairs area my bed is already

4099
02:52:32,550 --> 02:52:30,080
kind of ready to sleep

4100
02:52:34,389 --> 02:52:32,560
but i'm out hanging out with the locals

4101
02:52:35,110 --> 02:52:34,399
getting to know people and chatting with

4102
02:52:37,990 --> 02:52:35,120
everybody

4103
02:52:39,429 --> 02:52:38,000
in a different room so i'm the last one

4104
02:52:41,670 --> 02:52:39,439
to go to sleep

4105
02:52:43,190 --> 02:52:41,680
and now think again think big bonus room

4106
02:52:45,190 --> 02:52:43,200
it's the second floor

4107
02:52:46,230 --> 02:52:45,200
there's curtains some of the windows are

4108
02:52:47,190 --> 02:52:46,240
kind of open

4109
02:52:48,790 --> 02:52:47,200
but you're in the middle of the

4110
02:52:50,070 --> 02:52:48,800
reservation there's no like there's no

4111
02:52:51,510 --> 02:52:50,080
next door neighbor so

4112
02:52:53,110 --> 02:52:51,520
what you're seeing is like moonlight

4113
02:52:55,990 --> 02:52:53,120
outside

4114
02:52:58,150 --> 02:52:56,000
and it was the the moon was pretty full

4115
02:53:01,110 --> 02:52:58,160
so i go to lay down

4116
02:53:02,630 --> 02:53:01,120
and this painting is to the left of me

4117
02:53:06,389 --> 02:53:02,640
on the wall

4118
02:53:11,269 --> 02:53:06,399
and i see from this painting

4119
02:53:14,550 --> 02:53:11,279
something like a misty

4120
02:53:17,990 --> 02:53:14,560
weird cloud is

4121
02:53:22,309 --> 02:53:18,000
coming out from the hoops of this

4122
02:53:24,710 --> 02:53:22,319
painting and i'm watching this thing

4123
02:53:26,469 --> 02:53:24,720
and i'm doing the thing we're like i'm

4124
02:53:29,030 --> 02:53:26,479
thinking man i must be tired

4125
02:53:30,469 --> 02:53:29,040
right right every eyes everybody's

4126
02:53:33,510 --> 02:53:30,479
sleeping

4127
02:53:38,389 --> 02:53:33,520
um dang i'm tired right

4128
02:53:42,309 --> 02:53:38,399
what color were the the clouds

4129
02:53:45,590 --> 02:53:42,319
white exactly the hoops were white

4130
02:53:48,070 --> 02:53:45,600
this misty weird cloudy thing

4131
02:53:48,790 --> 02:53:48,080
okay do you think about this imagine if

4132
02:53:51,590 --> 02:53:48,800
you had

4133
02:53:53,269 --> 02:53:51,600
a cloudy tank of water and you shined a

4134
02:53:56,070 --> 02:53:53,279
flashlight through it and it

4135
02:53:56,550 --> 02:53:56,080
has that weird you know that weird water

4136
02:53:58,630 --> 02:53:56,560
light

4137
02:53:59,910 --> 02:53:58,640
effect that almost and it's like

4138
02:54:03,349 --> 02:53:59,920
rippling

4139
02:54:07,910 --> 02:54:03,359
and it was coming out of the painting

4140
02:54:11,429 --> 02:54:07,920
about what is this 18 to 24 inches

4141
02:54:14,309 --> 02:54:11,439
yeah like a tube a tube of misty light

4142
02:54:14,870 --> 02:54:14,319
white yeah the tube was a good i don't

4143
02:54:17,269 --> 02:54:14,880
know

4144
02:54:18,710 --> 02:54:17,279
18 inches too like it was the the size

4145
02:54:21,349 --> 02:54:18,720
of where the hoops were

4146
02:54:22,790 --> 02:54:21,359
above the painting of these two young

4147
02:54:25,990 --> 02:54:22,800
men

4148
02:54:28,550 --> 02:54:26,000
and it's extending and so i'm doing now

4149
02:54:29,510 --> 02:54:28,560
the logical thing what the heck is that

4150
02:54:33,110 --> 02:54:29,520
i sit up

4151
02:54:34,790 --> 02:54:33,120
i look at it i wave my hand my arm

4152
02:54:36,790 --> 02:54:34,800
over the light because i'm thinking this

4153
02:54:38,950 --> 02:54:36,800
is a reflection this is light coming in

4154
02:54:40,950 --> 02:54:38,960
this is the windows playing tricks

4155
02:54:43,830 --> 02:54:40,960
what's going on this light effect

4156
02:54:44,230 --> 02:54:43,840
nothing's happening jimmy i'm thinking

4157
02:54:46,150 --> 02:54:44,240
uh

4158
02:54:48,389 --> 02:54:46,160
wait no okay but like seriously what is

4159
02:54:49,990 --> 02:54:48,399
this so now i get up and i don't want to

4160
02:54:50,870 --> 02:54:50,000
wake anybody up but i'm slowly getting

4161
02:54:53,510 --> 02:54:50,880
up and i'm

4162
02:54:54,870 --> 02:54:53,520
covering this thing and then i'm moving

4163
02:54:57,349 --> 02:54:54,880
my head away

4164
02:54:59,510 --> 02:54:57,359
and i'm looking up and it's not leaving

4165
02:55:02,710 --> 02:54:59,520
and it's not moving

4166
02:55:04,750 --> 02:55:02,720
and all i know is that it's there and

4167
02:55:06,870 --> 02:55:04,760
lucinda do not touch it

4168
02:55:09,990 --> 02:55:06,880
[Music]

4169
02:55:11,990 --> 02:55:10,000
now you know and and i'm

4170
02:55:14,389 --> 02:55:12,000
picturing just like the first time you

4171
02:55:18,469 --> 02:55:14,399
told me about this

4172
02:55:20,309 --> 02:55:18,479
i'm almost picturing uh donnie darko

4173
02:55:22,870 --> 02:55:20,319
with the tube that was going through the

4174
02:55:25,990 --> 02:55:22,880
house right and i'm picturing that

4175
02:55:27,750 --> 02:55:26,000
but not metallic more more smoky

4176
02:55:30,550 --> 02:55:27,760
but but that's what's going through my

4177
02:55:33,750 --> 02:55:30,560
mind right this this watery tube thing

4178
02:55:37,429 --> 02:55:33,760
but you've got a pair of them and

4179
02:55:40,469 --> 02:55:37,439
and now okay but this is where for me

4180
02:55:42,870 --> 02:55:40,479
and we've only got uh we've got barely

4181
02:55:46,230 --> 02:55:42,880
got four and a half minutes

4182
02:55:49,030 --> 02:55:46,240
so let's get to the crazy part

4183
02:55:49,830 --> 02:55:49,040
you end up telling the next day you tell

4184
02:55:52,550 --> 02:55:49,840
the story

4185
02:55:53,910 --> 02:55:52,560
about the painting and the lights the

4186
02:55:54,710 --> 02:55:53,920
next day i tell the story about the

4187
02:55:56,870 --> 02:55:54,720
painting and the lights

4188
02:55:59,349 --> 02:55:56,880
nothing good happens from that does it

4189
02:56:04,230 --> 02:55:59,359
do you think uh uh just yes or no

4190
02:56:07,590 --> 02:56:06,950
no okay because okay no you don't have

4191
02:56:09,269 --> 02:56:07,600
to give them

4192
02:56:10,790 --> 02:56:09,279
you don't have to give that because i

4193
02:56:13,429 --> 02:56:10,800
don't want to run out of time

4194
02:56:15,510 --> 02:56:13,439
okay i would have kept it to myself

4195
02:56:18,469 --> 02:56:15,520
especially knowing what i know now

4196
02:56:19,750 --> 02:56:18,479
okay so the next day lucinda wants to

4197
02:56:22,389 --> 02:56:19,760
talk about

4198
02:56:25,349 --> 02:56:22,399
the lights and the painting what

4199
02:56:32,950 --> 02:56:29,830
i find out that

4200
02:56:38,830 --> 02:56:32,960
the two young men

4201
02:56:43,990 --> 02:56:41,269
and how much do i want to say so

4202
02:56:44,630 --> 02:56:44,000
i'm going to say this in lakota custom

4203
02:56:46,469 --> 02:56:44,640
if you

4204
02:56:47,990 --> 02:56:46,479
like medium ship i they don't want to

4205
02:56:49,590 --> 02:56:48,000
say because i think they don't want to

4206
02:56:51,110 --> 02:56:49,600
offend me but it's kind of frowned upon

4207
02:56:53,030 --> 02:56:51,120
because if you want to

4208
02:56:54,150 --> 02:56:53,040
talk to somebody on the other side you

4209
02:56:56,870 --> 02:56:54,160
need a medicine man

4210
02:56:57,990 --> 02:56:56,880
there is ceremony there's protocols and

4211
02:57:01,269 --> 02:56:58,000
the fact that i

4212
02:57:04,550 --> 02:57:01,279
saw that i think was a little

4213
02:57:07,750 --> 02:57:04,560
um off-putting

4214
02:57:08,790 --> 02:57:07,760
i think we're being kind here okay it's

4215
02:57:15,750 --> 02:57:08,800
covered now

4216
02:57:17,670 --> 02:57:15,760
so what happened what what what did you

4217
02:57:20,630 --> 02:57:17,680
see the next night when you went back to

4218
02:57:24,070 --> 02:57:22,870
the next night it was it was covered

4219
02:57:27,590 --> 02:57:24,080
after they covered

4220
02:57:31,190 --> 02:57:27,600
the painting do you i mean and

4221
02:57:36,070 --> 02:57:31,200
you know knowing what you know now um

4222
02:57:39,349 --> 02:57:36,080
you freaked him out right yeah

4223
02:57:41,990 --> 02:57:39,359
yeah did you uh

4224
02:57:42,950 --> 02:57:42,000
we're out of time i have other things i

4225
02:57:46,070 --> 02:57:42,960
was i was

4226
02:57:47,830 --> 02:57:46,080
walking in on the burial ground

4227
02:57:49,990 --> 02:57:47,840
and all of a sudden i started humming a

4228
02:57:52,230 --> 02:57:50,000
song and it turns out i thought i made

4229
02:57:53,510 --> 02:57:52,240
it up but i was humming the ghost dance

4230
02:57:57,910 --> 02:57:53,520
song

4231
02:58:00,150 --> 02:57:57,920
which i'm not supposed to know so

4232
02:58:01,590 --> 02:58:00,160
what did you uh what went through your

4233
02:58:04,230 --> 02:58:01,600
mind in our last

4234
02:58:06,950 --> 02:58:04,240
30 seconds 45 seconds here when you went

4235
02:58:10,710 --> 02:58:06,960
back in and saw the painting covered

4236
02:58:12,550 --> 02:58:10,720
um did you want to go through the

4237
02:58:14,469 --> 02:58:12,560
experience again

4238
02:58:16,630 --> 02:58:14,479
did you think that maybe you offended

4239
02:58:17,269 --> 02:58:16,640
every custom that the lakotas had and

4240
02:58:20,150 --> 02:58:17,279
now

4241
02:58:21,190 --> 02:58:20,160
they had to cover it because of you you

4242
02:58:25,510 --> 02:58:21,200
know what what what

4243
02:58:27,590 --> 02:58:25,520
through your mind um i always feel that

4244
02:58:29,910 --> 02:58:27,600
it's not going to happen to me

4245
02:58:31,990 --> 02:58:29,920
unless i needed to say something and i

4246
02:58:35,590 --> 02:58:32,000
did and so something about that

4247
02:58:38,150 --> 02:58:35,600
is is sacred and is for them um

4248
02:58:39,349 --> 02:58:38,160
and i think it did give it actually gave

4249
02:58:41,590 --> 02:58:39,359
some comfort

4250
02:58:43,269 --> 02:58:41,600
but there are protocols with that like

4251
02:58:45,510 --> 02:58:43,279
when you live in that area that is such

4252
02:58:48,070 --> 02:58:45,520
a paranormal hotbed

4253
02:58:49,590 --> 02:58:48,080
you know you take precautions and so

4254
02:58:51,429 --> 02:58:49,600
this was a precaution and i was i

4255
02:58:53,590 --> 02:58:51,439
totally support it and

4256
02:58:55,349 --> 02:58:53,600
i you know they made the right call

4257
02:58:57,030 --> 02:58:55,359
lucinda what a great night tonight did

4258
02:58:58,790 --> 02:58:57,040
you have fun

4259
02:59:00,309 --> 02:58:58,800
i did have fun oh thank you i did have

4260
02:59:01,750 --> 02:59:00,319
fun i hope the fader not to have fun i

4261
02:59:03,590 --> 02:59:01,760
wanted to be on twitter but it was just

4262
02:59:05,030 --> 02:59:03,600
too much going on oh no too much i've

4263
02:59:07,510 --> 02:59:05,040
been you know what i haven't even

4264
02:59:08,389 --> 02:59:07,520
looked at twitter tonight i apologize to

4265
02:59:11,269 --> 02:59:08,399
everybody

4266
02:59:11,670 --> 02:59:11,279
uh fully engaged with this lucinda where

4267
02:59:14,790 --> 02:59:11,680
can

4268
02:59:15,670 --> 02:59:14,800
everybody reach out to you oh i know

4269
02:59:17,030 --> 02:59:15,680
you're going to ask me that

4270
02:59:18,870 --> 02:59:17,040
listen everyone's already reaching out

4271
02:59:22,070 --> 02:59:18,880
to me on twitter

4272
02:59:26,710 --> 02:59:22,080
what's your twitter handle um

4273
02:59:30,230 --> 02:59:26,720
at lucinda morel m-o-r-e-l

4274
02:59:32,870 --> 02:59:30,240
all of that is uh there you go

4275
02:59:34,070 --> 02:59:32,880
lucinda thank you so much all my best

4276
02:59:36,950 --> 02:59:34,080
all of our best

4277
02:59:38,150 --> 02:59:36,960
uh to uh not only you but your husband

4278
02:59:41,590 --> 02:59:38,160
and the kids and

4279
02:59:43,750 --> 02:59:41,600
and tell everybody i said hello okay

4280
02:59:45,190 --> 02:59:43,760
i will thank you so much for having me

4281
02:59:47,830 --> 02:59:45,200
my kids laughed when i told them you

4282
02:59:51,110 --> 02:59:47,840
just discovered rick and morty

4283
02:59:55,030 --> 02:59:51,120
let me tell you something i have watched

4284
02:59:58,790 --> 02:59:55,040
all four seasons of rick and morty now

4285
03:00:01,429 --> 02:59:58,800
three times three times

4286
03:00:02,230 --> 03:00:01,439
hey that's they just signed a deal for

4287
03:00:05,750 --> 03:00:02,240
70

4288
03:00:07,269 --> 03:00:05,760
more episodes oh my god you let them

4289
03:00:11,030 --> 03:00:07,279
watch rick and morty

4290
03:00:14,230 --> 03:00:11,040
man you're the coolest mom ever i mean

4291
03:00:16,469 --> 03:00:14,240
is there a bleeped out version of the

4292
03:00:17,990 --> 03:00:16,479
show or do they get the full on adult

4293
03:00:20,710 --> 03:00:18,000
content

4294
03:00:22,150 --> 03:00:20,720
unfortunately no it's it's the older one

4295
03:00:23,670 --> 03:00:22,160
you know the teenager he just

4296
03:00:25,830 --> 03:00:23,680
we just watched the matrix here's

4297
03:00:26,309 --> 03:00:25,840
another synchronicity because my oldest

4298
03:00:27,830 --> 03:00:26,319
was like

4299
03:00:29,910 --> 03:00:27,840
uh can we watch the matrix now because i

4300
03:00:31,510 --> 03:00:29,920
need to understand these references

4301
03:00:34,950 --> 03:00:31,520
and so i just saw the majors with the

4302
03:00:37,190 --> 03:00:34,960
voice mom what's a red pill

4303
03:00:37,990 --> 03:00:37,200
exactly i'm tired of not knowing what

4304
03:00:41,030 --> 03:00:38,000
the red pill is

4305
03:00:44,230 --> 03:00:41,040
in the blue pill man rick and morty i

4306
03:00:45,750 --> 03:00:44,240
i just cannot get enough of it and the

4307
03:00:48,870 --> 03:00:45,760
dad rick sanchez

4308
03:00:50,230 --> 03:00:48,880
is like the coolest dude ever um i i

4309
03:00:51,910 --> 03:00:50,240
just love that show so much

4310
03:00:53,429 --> 03:00:51,920
i can't believe i'm just now discovering

4311
03:00:55,349 --> 03:00:53,439
it i didn't want to

4312
03:00:56,710 --> 03:00:55,359
i'm about to run out of time i didn't

4313
03:00:57,670 --> 03:00:56,720
want to watch it because it was a

4314
03:01:04,630 --> 03:00:57,680
cartoon

4315
03:01:07,349 --> 03:01:04,640
and say judgment ah judgment

4316
03:01:09,190 --> 03:01:07,359
shame on me lucinda thank you so much

4317
03:01:10,950 --> 03:01:09,200
enjoy your night and again give my best

4318
03:01:14,070 --> 03:01:10,960
to everybody thank you so much

4319
03:01:17,429 --> 03:01:14,080
you too love you love you right back

4320
03:01:18,469 --> 03:01:17,439
lucinda morale and uh this was a long

4321
03:01:21,030 --> 03:01:18,479
time coming

4322
03:01:21,830 --> 03:01:21,040
i'm glad that we finally got this show

4323
03:01:26,150 --> 03:01:21,840
out

4324
03:01:28,309 --> 03:01:26,160
now met lucinda

4325
03:01:30,150 --> 03:01:28,319
all right now i've got to go i got to

4326
03:01:32,870 --> 03:01:30,160
get out of here we just went

4327
03:01:34,630 --> 03:01:32,880
uh bumper to bumper pulled a pole fade

4328
03:01:36,790 --> 03:01:34,640
to black's executive producers rita

4329
03:01:38,550 --> 03:01:36,800
kamarian shows produced by hilton j palm

4330
03:01:41,110 --> 03:01:38,560
renee dennis and kevin

4331
03:01:41,670 --> 03:01:41,120
announcers are steve harder gene vettel

4332
03:01:44,309 --> 03:01:41,680
mark d

4333
03:01:46,710 --> 03:01:44,319
kovar webmasters drew the geek music

4334
03:01:49,110 --> 03:01:46,720
doug aldridge intro space boy

4335
03:01:51,190 --> 03:01:49,120
space spaceboymusic.com beta black is

4336
03:01:52,150 --> 03:01:51,200
produced by kjcr for the game changer

4337
03:01:56,389 --> 03:01:52,160
network

4338
03:01:59,190 --> 03:01:56,399
syndication is kgra the planet

4339
03:02:00,710 --> 03:01:59,200
this broadcast owned a copyrighted 2021

4340
03:02:03,190 --> 03:02:00,720
by fade to black in the game changer

4341
03:02:05,110 --> 03:02:03,200
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4342
03:02:06,230 --> 03:02:05,120
downloaded copied or used anywhere in

4343
03:02:07,910 --> 03:02:06,240
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4344
03:02:09,429 --> 03:02:07,920
without written permission from fade to

4345
03:02:10,790 --> 03:02:09,439
block of the game changer network i'm

4346
03:02:14,309 --> 03:02:10,800
your host jimmy church

4347
03:02:17,349 --> 03:02:14,319
the bunker is back baby

4348
03:02:18,950 --> 03:02:17,359
we got through the show very excited

4349
03:02:21,110 --> 03:02:18,960
about that

4350
03:02:22,870 --> 03:02:21,120
i'll see everybody tomorrow night until

4351
03:02:25,830 --> 03:02:22,880
then i want you to be safe

4352
03:02:28,230 --> 03:02:25,840
kathleen martin is here it's not fade or

4353
03:02:56,830 --> 03:02:44,020
it's now time to fade the block

4354
03:02:56,840 --> 03:03:02,770
so